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Here are some You tube videos for binding a guitar. It may help clear up some things. Hope you like them


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lan2pKWE1Do


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cwJiOVzE_E


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-364fAT89b8

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John Hall
blues creek guitars
Authorized CF Martin Repair
Co President of ASIA
You Don't know what you don't know until you know it

Fantastic, John!!! Thanks for sharing.

I sure could have used this 7 years ago!!!

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JJ
Napa, CA
http://www.DonohueGuitars.com

Nicely done John. My only suggestion would be to recommend hearing protection while doing this procedure. I like the copper tape idea for fine tuning the cuts.
Terry

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It's not what you don't know that hurts you, it's what you do know that's wrong.

Great job John! Like the tip about the copper tape. Any reason why you did not use tape on the side when routing for top binding?

Chuck

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I forgot , I got into the video and well i knew someone would let me know
I have a bending video to come out soon to
thanks

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John Hall
blues creek guitars
Authorized CF Martin Repair
Co President of ASIA
You Don't know what you don't know until you know it

Hey John,

Thanks for the links!

I have a question or two.

I noticed you don't secure the work to the table and instead kinda move it around with one hand while you are working with the other. I'm not sure I could get away with this safely (i'm a bit of a n00b around fast spinney metal things). Isn't one of the benefits of that particular style of machine that you can secure the work to the bench top?

Also, I noticed you removed the masking tape after the first pass, and then made a cleanup pass. Is this done for a reason? Isn't there still a risk of a spinning bearing damaging the side?

Thanks

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Jim Hansen

The tape is removed for just that ,to make the clean up cuts. There is no reason to fasten the base down. There is enough mass to keep anything from flying . I like the freedom to move things around for visual and space constraints.

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John Hall
blues creek guitars
Authorized CF Martin Repair
Co President of ASIA
You Don't know what you don't know until you know it

I really like that binding machine better than mine....Hmmm, some day!

Oh yeah, sorry........ a respirator would be a good idea too

Cheers

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Gwaltney Guitars

Great video John. I also move the base some not a problem. My table is very solid and flat and I use a tall machinist square and do the neck and tail block area's. Also use them to square the bouts, maybe not just as critically as the front and rear though but very close. Don't mean to hijack just another method of getting square body and good channels. I have this model and your old style also and both work great. I remember about 6 years ago used the old Chicago trimmers and like the new PC better. More accurate and stable

Would that system work with a stationary router set-up, since you can move the guitar around?

the only thing I wasn't confident with on this kind of jig was the depth of the routing that would vary quite alot if the bottom of the router would stay flat... but your angled nylon plate is the solution... a really really good idea.
thanks for the tip !
wonderful job

Nice job John, I will echo JJ's comments except in my case 4 years. I have liked the video tutorials presented by list members even though I have pretty much already figured things out the hard way. John, Chris and Robbie will get a big thank you in person when I get the chance as I have picked up lots of things from all the videos that have helped my techniques greatly.

I hope you all keep the videos coming in the future, there are lots of topics left to cover.

Thanks guys
Fred

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Fred Tellier
http://www.fetellierguitars.com
Facebook page http://www.facebook.com/pages/FE-Tellier-Guitars/163451547003866

The next planned video is neck setting

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John Hall
blues creek guitars
Authorized CF Martin Repair
Co President of ASIA
You Don't know what you don't know until you know it

You have anymore planned?

I want to do most basic processes , and i will be doing some inlay . Keep an eye out for blues creek guitars on You Tube. I hope to do more

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John Hall
blues creek guitars
Authorized CF Martin Repair
Co President of ASIA
You Don't know what you don't know until you know it

I subscribed to your channel so I won't miss them.

John, thank you!

John- I thanked you for this in the bending post. But I wanted to make sure I got it said here too. Mike T.

I subscribed, too

John, will you help clarify something for me? You covered it in the video, but I need a little extra support. Am I correct in thinking that the idea is to get the sides perpendicular to the table with the holding fixture? It's not to get the top or back parallel, it's to get the sides perpendicular?

John--I have my all but complete W-F jig, sitting trimmerless. How did you mount the 7310 to the business end of the arm? I have a 7310 new in the box, waiting for a proven method. I ask, because it does not appear that the attachment is on a horizontal platform at the bottom of an "L" shaped end piece.

My plan had been to use a piece of lucite as the horizontal platform with a counterbore for a flanged Nylon sleeve bearing(1" ID) and the trimmer screwed to the horizontal on top of the counterbore and centered. Then the sleeve portion of the nylon bearing extending about 1/4" from the bottom would be the "donut"(wall thickness is 1/8th"). Any suggestion-John or anyone? Thanks, Mike T.

I use the base screw to mount the router so I have max capability of the router

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John Hall
blues creek guitars
Authorized CF Martin Repair
Co President of ASIA
You Don't know what you don't know until you know it

I use this jig from Blues Creek Guitars at Red Rocks Community College. Great product from a great company. Thanks John!