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 Post subject: Binding Jig finished
PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 11:18 am 
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Ok, so I could not wait. did the binding jig myself bliss . Was far more easier that I had thought. and last night I cut the top bindings and purflings, looks awesome !! could not be happier :D . On the photos you will se a thin rubber stripe, its there to not let the machine weight down on the top to much. but I recon Chris Paulics method with the wheel/weights would be a good upgrade to mine [:Y:] .

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 Post subject: Re: Binding Jig finished
PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 11:44 am 
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Looks great Lars!! It sounds like it works great too. At least the jig/fixture building slows down at some point. Right??? Tell me it does.


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 Post subject: Re: Binding Jig finished
PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 11:49 am 
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Good going Lars bro your jig looks fantastic! [:Y:] [clap] [clap] [clap] [clap] [clap]


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 Post subject: Re: Binding Jig finished
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Thats nice Lars. Real spacesaver I may actually build one of those... especially for doing harp guitars. The arm on the williams won't reach and I have to constantly reposition the base.


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 Post subject: Re: Binding Jig finished
PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 12:19 pm 
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Way to go Lars, looks good! It sure feels good when that first binding channel is done, doesn't it? [:Y:]

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 Post subject: Re: Binding Jig finished
PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 1:36 pm 
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Nice jig Lars! Aren't you worried that the cloth will bunch up under the holding jig and cause height variations when you route?

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 Post subject: Re: Binding Jig finished
PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 2:21 pm 
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Thank you all, Yes does feel great, Dave , didn´t even think of this ! :shock: . It´s real easy to handle, just did the purfling and binding channels on the back, this to went great.
also just pun in the endgraft. so getting closer to finishline. bliss . Darrin, it seem to never end hahaha.
just got some velcro or whatever its called for having underneath the sandpaper on the drumsander. will fix that thing next hmm. like I said it never ends. :lol: .

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 Post subject: Re: Binding Jig finished
PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 6:52 pm 
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just glued in the bindings and purf. scaaary !! hmm cant wait to get the tejp off. :?


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 Post subject: Re: Binding Jig finished
PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 8:17 pm 
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anyone got any plans for binding jig i really need to make as binding channels is worst hated job,
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 Post subject: Re: Binding Jig finished
PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 6:46 pm 
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Joel. Its not hard at all to build, you wont need a plan to build it !! draw a shape of a body. , look at the wood I used for the guitarholders, and screws. Get the rollers that it glides on on the hardwarestore. build a to walls with bottom, place the gliders on the sides (about 3-4 inches up from the botttom ) then make another walls with bottom and screw the L-trimmer onto it, on the bottom of this one frill a hole that is just a bit bigger that the cutter, and underneath place the thingy pictured, that the guitar will run on. I used hard plastic, drilled a hole the same size as on the plate the L-trimmer sits on then shaped it on the belt sander left about 7mm straight so the guitar has a place to run on.

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 Post subject: Re: Binding Jig finished
PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 8:30 pm 
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Joel, there's some more information in this threadhttp://luthiersforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10101&t=20790.

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 Post subject: Re: Binding Jig finished
PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 7:04 pm 
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Good job Lars. But I think you will need a sled with cutaways if you want to build a cutaway.
LMI sales plans if you need a plan.


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 Post subject: Re: Binding Jig finished
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Nice job Lars!! [clap] [clap] Your pictures couldn't have come at a better time. I'm just getting ready to build my binding jig. Keep hearing the scaryness of binding so I'm glad to have a way to do it that cuts down the chance of messing it up :? Are the clamps on the carriage strong enough? There seems to be only a butt joint holding together the part that tightens against the side of the guitar and the horizontal part that adjusts on the carriage. Looks exciting to close in on it bliss bliss


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 Post subject: Re: Binding Jig finished
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Here's another carriage design. It's from the LMI plans except I used carriage bolts and the wing nuts as they are much cheaper then buying plastic knobs and 1/4" bushings. It works fine. The side pressure isn't that tight. You snug it up all the way around and make the sides square to the table. The carriage works great as a holder for doing other jobs too. If you don't want it to move you just clamp it to the work bench.
Lars, I hope you don't mind me posting these pics? I just want to show some options for the carriage.


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 Post subject: Re: Binding Jig finished
PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 12:15 pm 
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Thanks for the pictures, Chris. I get it now. There really is no lateral pressure on the guitar. The box is held in placd by the adjustable blocks that it sits on. The lateral adjustment is just to keep the guitar from moving in the carriage (not to hold it up).


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 Post subject: Re: Binding Jig finished
PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 12:42 pm 
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The vertical piece is 5" X 1 1/2", the horizontal is 4" X 1 1/2" and the block is 2" X 1 1/2" all X 3/4" . The base outline is about 1 1/2"-2" smaller then a Dred or in other words the arms over hang the base by that distance. Slotting the pieces takes the longest time. I cut mine in a mini mill so it was pretty easy.
I found those wingnut/washer combonation at Home Depot. They are used for hurricane proofing windows. You might be able to find them there. I use them for a lot of jigs as they are cheaper then knobs.


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 Post subject: Re: Binding Jig finished
PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 1:56 pm 
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Awesome!!! The rest looks easy. Thanks :P


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