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Author:  Jaybird840 [ Sat Mar 23, 2013 7:28 am ]
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Casey Cochran wrote:
Those position markers look easy enough to replicate if you can't find them anywhere.


Hey Casey, Luthiersupply.com carries them, and just about any other inlay replica you could imagine. I've ordered from them a few times, and their products are good. When you talk to them on the phone, it's pretty obvious they're running it off their kitchen table, as you can hear kids in the background, etc. With that said, I've always gotten what I ordered in a timely fashion. Check 'em out... The NIck Lucas inlays are about halfway down the traditional inlay page.

http://www.luthiersupply.com/fretinlaytradpage.html
Author:  Clinchriver [ Sun Mar 24, 2013 4:46 pm ]
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Jaybird840 wrote:
Casey Cochran wrote:
Those position markers look easy enough to replicate if you can't find them anywhere.


Hey Casey, Luthiersupply.com carries them, and just about any other inlay replica you could imagine. I've ordered from them a few times, and their products are good. When you talk to them on the phone, it's pretty obvious they're running it off their kitchen table, as you can hear kids in the background, etc. With that said, I've always gotten what I ordered in a timely fashion. Check 'em out... The NIck Lucas inlays are about halfway down the traditional inlay page.

http://www.luthiersupply.com/fretinlaytradpage.html


I got an email from luthier supply to give them a call tomorrow. Probably order two sets while I have them treed:)

I've had a bad cold since this time last week, totally wasted week gaah I did get my kerfed linings glued in today.
Author:  Tony_in_NYC [ Tue Mar 26, 2013 5:08 pm ]
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DePaule supply is great. They are a family run business, but they ship fast and they are professional. I worked with Andy Depaule on two custom inlays. Both were top notch and priced great. He has family in Vietnam, I think his wife is Vietnamese, and he has workers there who cut the shell by hand. All of it. No CNC for him!
Feel better clinch! You have work to do!
Author:  Clinchriver [ Fri Mar 29, 2013 6:49 pm ]
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Tony_in_NYC wrote:
DePaule supply is great. They are a family run business, but they ship fast and they are professional. I worked with Andy Depaule on two custom inlays. Both were top notch and priced great. He has family in Vietnam, I think his wife is Vietnamese, and he has workers there who cut the shell by hand. All of it. No CNC for him!
Feel better clinch! You have work to do!


DePaule is great! And I do have a sh-tload of work to do laughing6-hehe
One note DePaule sent 8 fretboard inlays plus the headstock inlay and the 1937 Nick Lucas I have personally seen & photographed has 6............ guess thats why you take pics.
Author:  Clinchriver [ Sat Apr 06, 2013 1:55 pm ]
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Ok got serious about ciphering the difference between a 13 and a 14 fret, moved the bridge/bridge plate about 11/16" south duh
Now we can brace the top and close the box.
Author:  Casey Cochran [ Sat Apr 06, 2013 2:11 pm ]
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Have you checked out the Santa Cruz H13? They shifted the sound hole and X brace also.
Author:  Clinchriver [ Sat Apr 06, 2013 3:07 pm ]
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Casey Cochran wrote:
Have you checked out the Santa Cruz H13? They shifted the sound hole and X brace also.


I'll check it out. I left the sound hole alone but definitely had to shift the bracing.
Author:  ZekeM [ Sat Apr 06, 2013 3:13 pm ]
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What sort of changes are you hoping to gain by going with a 13 fretter? My curiosity is peaked.
Author:  Clinchriver [ Sat Apr 06, 2013 3:21 pm ]
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ZekeM wrote:
What sort of changes are you hoping to gain by going with a 13 fretter? My curiosity is peaked.


Don't have a clue laughing6-hehe Possibly a little more of the 12 fret rumble/growl/balance, with a close to normal neck. #1 gets played a couple hours a day, I've done more fingerpicking the last couple of months that the previous 30 years......
Author:  Randy Jones [ Sun Apr 07, 2013 5:59 pm ]
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What is your scale length?

I believe the H13 is 25.375" and L-00 14 fretters were 24.75. The idea on the H13 is the longer scale length + dred body depth + 13 frets shifting the bridge deeper into the lower bout = a powerhouse of a small guitar. I really have no idea if this works or not (never played one!), but I do think that's a reasonable summary of the design decisions.
Author:  Clinchriver [ Sun Apr 07, 2013 7:12 pm ]
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Randy Jones wrote:
What is your scale length?

I believe the H13 is 25.375" and L-00 14 fretters were 24.75. The idea on the H13 is the longer scale length + dred body depth + 13 frets shifting the bridge deeper into the lower bout = a powerhouse of a small guitar. I really have no idea if this works or not (never played one!), but I do think that's a reasonable summary of the design decisions.


Randy its 24.750.

I checked out the H13 and its a real nice guitar, great sound, love the pyramid bridge, but its evolved into a different animal compared to a Nick Lucas. Like you said 25.375 scale, 21 frets (moved the sound hole south:) Slothead...... I would be interested in trying to build one of those sometime.

I got some poster board and really worked on getting the bridge/bridge plate in the right spot and then the bracing was a piece of cake. I used Stew Macs fret calculator, it has length on the low E 24.958 (+ or - .030), high E 24.836 (+ or - .030)
Author:  SteveSmith [ Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:53 pm ]
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Looks good, glad to see you're back at it [:Y:]
Author:  Clinchriver [ Fri Apr 12, 2013 6:23 am ]
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Carving bracing, going to close the box this weekend. Vintage Gibson style........
Author:  Clinchriver [ Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:32 pm ]
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Need to shape on the bandsaw, then make a box. This would be a box except for my lovely wife and 500 square feet of tongue & groove pine flooring [headinwall] I'm dragging laughing6-hehe

Make a box, bind said box, then were off to the neck, 13 frets.....
Author:  David Lane [ Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:51 pm ]
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Clinchriver wrote:
..........all that polyester side reinforcement peeled off. What are you guys using?

I suppose telling you I still use popsicle sticks puts me firmly in the Jurassic era :lol: (on the odd occasion of me building an acoustic). I just now got to read the entire thread. I love a Nick Lucas, and yours will rock with those maple sides and back ;)


Dave


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Author:  Clinchriver [ Fri Apr 19, 2013 4:55 am ]
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David Lane wrote:
Clinchriver wrote:
..........all that polyester side reinforcement peeled off. What are you guys using?

I suppose telling you I still use popsicle sticks puts me firmly in the Jurassic era :lol: (on the odd occasion of me building an acoustic). I just now got to read the entire thread. I love a Nick Lucas, and yours will rock with those maple sides and back ;)


Dave


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Thanks, one can only hope duh Your name is ringing a bell have you been to any of the Woodcraft get togethers?
Author:  David Lane [ Fri Apr 19, 2013 9:28 am ]
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Clinchriver wrote:

Thanks, one can only hope duh Your name is ringing a bell have you been to any of the Woodcraft get togethers?

Lol, been to all of them, I take the pics for TDPRI ;) . Wouldn't let me register CrazyDave911 here it seems :lol: , but yeh, we know each other
Can't wait to see the neck on this one ;)
Author:  Clinchriver [ Fri Apr 19, 2013 10:12 am ]
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David Lane wrote:
Clinchriver wrote:

Thanks, one can only hope duh Your name is ringing a bell have you been to any of the Woodcraft get togethers?

Lol, been to all of them, I take the pics for TDPRI ;) . Wouldn't let me register CrazyDave911 here it seems :lol: , but yeh, we know each other
Can't wait to see the neck on this one ;)

laughing6-hehe laughing6-hehe Thats funny I'd have never guessed with out the crazy in front of the Dave laughing6-hehe

Going to have a box today, actually two, the White Oak D and this, and then its neck time.
Author:  David Lane [ Fri Apr 19, 2013 11:43 am ]
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Clinchriver wrote:
Going to have a box today, actually two, the White Oak D and this, and then its neck time.

Sweet! :D

Yeh, the crazy kind of takes care of itself when you see my guitars 8-)
Author:  Clinchriver [ Sat Apr 20, 2013 9:04 am ]
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Did some minor brace carving/tweaking, trimmed the top to shape and glued her on. The recent rash of glue threads pushed me over the edge, & we are trying some of Tools for Working Wood High Clarity 192 gram HHG, I have been using Behlen 167 gram. Any way have a box:)
Author:  Clinchriver [ Sat Apr 20, 2013 7:31 pm ]
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Box, sanded, ready for binding.
Author:  Casey Cochran [ Sat Apr 20, 2013 8:58 pm ]
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Looks great! I like that rosette.
Author:  SteveSmith [ Sun Apr 21, 2013 12:58 pm ]
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I like it even better now that it has a box to go with it [:Y:]
Author:  Clinchriver [ Sun May 05, 2013 6:17 pm ]
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Routed and purfling glued. Not much to these simple black and white, front and back. Hopefully I can get the bindings bent and glued up this week, need to hit the neck, fingerboard, and....start the burst:) I really like the shape of these.
Author:  David Lane [ Sun May 05, 2013 11:02 pm ]
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Looking really nice Greg, you've got oak down ;)
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