Official Luthiers Forum!

Owned and operated by Lance Kragenbrink
It is currently Thu Oct 31, 2024 7:19 pm


All times are UTC - 5 hours





Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 9 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: Cutting FB radius
PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 7:50 pm 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 04, 2005 1:43 am
Posts: 1521
Location: Morral, OH
Which way do you cut your fingerboard radius? Do you cut with the grain or cross grain? What cutter shape and size do you use?
How much step over?

How do you hold them down:
- Clamps or jig/fixture,
- Vacuum
- Tape

_________________
tim...
http://www.mcknightguitars.com


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cutting FB radius
PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 9:17 pm 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood
User avatar

Joined: Thu Mar 01, 2007 3:15 pm
Posts: 2302
Location: Florida
I have been doing mine running with the grain, using a 1/2" ball end mill with a .125 stepover per pass. I havent got around to cutting the slots yet, but the radiusing part seems to work nicely. I use double sided tape to hold it down, but I can see the advantages of going to a vacuum system.

_________________
Reguards,

Ken H


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cutting FB radius
PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 10:42 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:44 pm
Posts: 1105
Location: Crownsville, MD
First name: Trevor
Last Name: Lewis
City: Crownsville
State: MD
Zip/Postal Code: 21032
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Semi-pro
..double sided tape and I run with the grain. You almost always want to run with the grain, on any cut. Cutting cross grain is always more prone to tear out & such.

I use a 1/2" ball mill at about a .050 or .075 stepover

_________________
http://www.PeakeGuitars.com


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cutting FB radius
PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 12:15 am 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2005 7:40 am
Posts: 2694
Location: United States
First name: John
Last Name: How
City: Auburn
State: Ca
Country: USA
Hi Tim, I just cut my first fingerboard on the machine yesterday. I cut it with a 1/4" spiral carbide downcut across the grain finishing with a 20% step over. it worked great although it will require a quick sanding. I generally do that after the neck is on the guitar right before installing the frets. There are some but marks on the board but not much and no tearout at all, just a quick sanding will do nicely, much better than my old method running with the grain. Of course my old jig was getting a little loose in accuracy.

I used double sided tape this time but I am about to make a vacuum jig with indexing pins.

_________________
Tickle your guitar daily, and it'll tickle you back.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cutting FB radius
PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 11:36 am 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood
User avatar

Joined: Tue May 02, 2006 9:02 am
Posts: 2351
Location: Canada
First name: Bob
Last Name: Garrish
City: Toronto
State: Ontario
Country: Canada
Status: Professional
1" carbide ball, vacuum hold down, small stepover (under 0.05")

Going perpendicular to the grain is a lot of short moves and it hard on your machine and much slower than going lengthwise. You should also be running the lengthwise passes parallel to your lightest axis, especially on a router where there are a lot more deflection issues.

_________________
Bob Garrish
Former Canonized Purveyor of Fine CNC Luthier Services


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cutting FB radius
PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 11:03 am 
Offline
Cocobolo
Cocobolo

Joined: Mon Mar 03, 2008 6:51 pm
Posts: 488
I've only tried it once and found that the setup for milling with fretboard on the neck too too long for the end result. I go through a lot of edge sander belts though, so I wouldn't mind having a milling process prior to sanding to do the major work.


Bob, Parser, is your cutting strategy parallel passes, tapered to match the fingerboard, back and forth or up and over to always be climbcutting etc?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cutting FB radius
PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 11:43 am 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:44 pm
Posts: 1105
Location: Crownsville, MD
First name: Trevor
Last Name: Lewis
City: Crownsville
State: MD
Zip/Postal Code: 21032
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Semi-pro
I carve a rectangular surface which overlaps all the edges at least a bit and come back and profile cut the board later. I use parallel passes which remain at a consistent Z height. I use mixed cutting - conventional and climb - with passes this small, it doesn't really matter too much...

_________________
http://www.PeakeGuitars.com


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cutting FB radius
PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 11:43 am 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood
User avatar

Joined: Tue May 02, 2006 9:02 am
Posts: 2351
Location: Canada
First name: Bob
Last Name: Garrish
City: Toronto
State: Ontario
Country: Canada
Status: Professional
Parallel passes, parallel to the grain. Parallel finishing passes are easiest on your machine and more accurate at speed.

Parser's correct in that the climb cuts will cover up the conventional cuts on a strictly convex shape like a FB.

_________________
Bob Garrish
Former Canonized Purveyor of Fine CNC Luthier Services


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cutting FB radius
PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:12 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jan 08, 2005 4:19 am
Posts: 1534
Location: United States
First name: Nelson
Last Name: Palen
Conical passes for the "compound radius".
And each fret slot depth to match.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 9 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 7 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
phpBB customization services by 2by2host.com