I've been using this with some success. It's easy to go too far though which I never had an issue with when using sandpaper and a block.
http://m.woodcraft.com/product/150566/i ... e-cut.aspx
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| Author: | Mike OMelia [ Sun Oct 16, 2016 7:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Rasps |
Boring topping. But, I would like a recomendation on a rasp(s) useful for clearing neck joint material for fitting. I usually use a block of wood with a 10-15 deg angle, 30 grit paper. But it's too slow. Ideas? M&T joint. Mike |
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| Author: | bcombs510 [ Sun Oct 16, 2016 8:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rasps |
I've been using this with some success. It's easy to go too far though which I never had an issue with when using sandpaper and a block. http://m.woodcraft.com/product/150566/i ... e-cut.aspx Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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| Author: | Mike OMelia [ Sun Oct 16, 2016 8:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rasps |
Does it cut on all sides? I want one that only cuts on bottom. Don't want to mess with tenon |
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| Author: | Clay S. [ Sun Oct 16, 2016 9:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rasps |
One of my favorite files is the plasticut duplex laminate file with the yellow handle. It has one "safe edge"which can also be used as a straight edge, one side that cuts quickly and one side that is fine cut. Rough enough for wood work and fine enough to give control and a good finish. (The red handled one isn't as aggressive as I like - less suited for wood IMHO) http://www.wurthwoodgroup.com/Duplex-La ... 79353.aspx |
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| Author: | Ben-Had [ Sun Oct 16, 2016 9:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rasps |
http://www.stewmac.com/Luthier_Tools/Ty ... _Rasp.html - I use the large coarse and fine http://www.stewmac.com/Luthier_Tools/Ty ... Files.html - I use the small flat and curved and large flat |
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| Author: | James Orr [ Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rasps |
I have two Liogier rasps which were handmade in France by Noël Liogier. Noël actually came to the forum to introduce himself and share a video of the process he uses to make them. One is a 10" #9 grain cabinet maker's rasp, and the other is a 7" #13 modeler's rasp. They're beautiful and highly effective, but I don't think they're what you want for this if I'm reading you correctly. I use a chisel to relieve the heel, leaving an 1/8th to a 1/4" of material around the edge. This makes the flossing process go much quicker. This is a pretty common technique. Robbie O'Brien demo's it around the 6:50 mark here. |
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| Author: | bcombs510 [ Mon Oct 17, 2016 8:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rasps |
Mike O'Melia wrote: Does it cut on all sides? I want one that only cuts on bottom. Don't want to mess with tenon Based on the responses from others I believe I misunderstood what you wer asking for. I use that file to take small amounts off the tenon sides to fit it into the mortise. For whatever reason mine don't fit right off the jig. I'm hoping to fix that though because I ordered the neck angle jig from luthiertool. 
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| Author: | Mike2E [ Tue Oct 18, 2016 4:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rasps |
Ben-Had wrote: http://www.stewmac.com/Luthier_Tools/Types_of_Tools/Files/Dragon_Hand-cut_Rasp.html - I use the large coarse and fine http://www.stewmac.com/Luthier_Tools/Ty ... Files.html - I use the small flat and curved and large flat I use the razor files as well |
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| Author: | Ruby50 [ Tue Oct 18, 2016 9:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rasps |
Why not a nice sharp chisel? Once you have relieved the parts of the joint next to the tenon, there is very little work to do. I haven't done many, but I use the chisel to get close to the line, then the angled piece of wood with 80 grit to the line, then floss in place. |
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| Author: | kencierp [ Tue Oct 18, 2016 9:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rasps |
I use a 1/4/" down spiral bearing guided pattern bit, same as for trimming top or back over hand. +1 for the Dragon file from SM -- excellent tool. |
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| Author: | Mike OMelia [ Tue Oct 18, 2016 11:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rasps |
OK, I used the chisel approach, plus sanding with a 10 degree block, much faster. Thanks! Mike |
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| Author: | bcombs510 [ Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rasps |
Now that I know what we are talking about... I chisel relief all the way up so that just a very thin edge is around the perimeter of the joint and then floss in place. What does the sanding block achieve? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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| Author: | dofthesea [ Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rasps |
I'm a big fan of the razer files from Stewmac http://www.stewmac.com/Luthier_Tools/Ty ... Files.html |
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| Author: | Mike OMelia [ Tue Oct 25, 2016 10:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rasps |
Sanding block is fine tuning |
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| Author: | Jim Kirby [ Wed Oct 26, 2016 7:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rasps |
Chisel is probably the way to go, but if you are still interested in something that produces a smooth finish that may be comparably useful, look at ... http://www.leevalley.com/US/Wood/page.a ... at=1,42524 These are designed for finishing body work on cars and such. They leave a really nice finish, and are almost always what I want to use after the basic rasp work. |
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