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Author:  AR15DCM [ Thu Jun 04, 2015 11:38 am ]
Post subject:  Anyone interested in a Group Buy?
I just got pricing on 90ยบ Angle Step Drill Bits for drilling the headstock tuner holes like this one;

Attachment:
StepDrillBit.png



I was just going to order one for myself, but I thought I would get pricing for multiples and see if you all would want any. They are made in China and will arrive 15-20 days after payment.

Here is the pricing for the bits, Stewart MacDonald wants $82 for one. I am still waiting on the shipping costs...;

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Step Drill Bit-Pricing.png



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StepDrillBit-Dimensions.png


D1: 7.8mm-diameter (.307")
D2: 9.9mm-diameter (.390")
L: 80mm (3.149")
L1: 18mm (.708")
L2: 62mm (2.440")
L3: 27mm (1.063")



If the Board owner wants to do this I am fine with it, in fact I would prefer it if anyone wants to contact them.
Author:  James Orr [ Thu Jun 04, 2015 12:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Anyone interested in a Group Buy?
Possibly interested. Are they the same manufacturer?
Author:  AR15DCM [ Thu Jun 04, 2015 1:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Anyone interested in a Group Buy?
James Orr wrote:
Possibly interested. Are they the same manufacturer?


I have no idea... These are being made in China. I don't know where StewMac gets theirs. But for the price difference you just about can not go wrong.
Author:  George L [ Thu Jun 04, 2015 1:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Anyone interested in a Group Buy?
[Edit: Interest withdrawn. I don't use those types of tuners.]
Author:  rlrhett [ Thu Jun 04, 2015 3:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Anyone interested in a Group Buy?
What tuners are these for?
Author:  AR15DCM [ Thu Jun 04, 2015 3:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Anyone interested in a Group Buy?
It is the same as the StewMac drill bit...

http://www.stewmac.com/Luthier_Tools/Ty ... l_Bit.html

Here is the description from the StewMac web site...


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Step Drill Bit-Description.png
Author:  Chris Pile [ Thu Jun 04, 2015 4:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Anyone interested in a Group Buy?
Count me in on a pair of the high speed steel units.
Author:  AR15DCM [ Thu Jun 04, 2015 4:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Anyone interested in a Group Buy?
I have PM'd Lance K. to see if the Board would like to take over the Group Buy, I have never managed one before etc...
Author:  tomlang [ Thu Jun 04, 2015 6:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Anyone interested in a Group Buy?
Definitely interested.
Author:  AR15DCM [ Thu Jun 04, 2015 7:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Anyone interested in a Group Buy?
Who did the last Group Buy here on the Forum ?
Author:  jfmckenna [ Fri Jun 05, 2015 7:51 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Anyone interested in a Group Buy?
Yes I would go for a carbide bit.
Author:  AR15DCM [ Fri Jun 05, 2015 9:39 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Anyone interested in a Group Buy?
jfmckenna wrote:
Yes I would go for a carbide bit.



Okay I PM'd and emailed Lance K. to see if the board will sponsor the Group Buy.
Author:  windsurfer [ Fri Jun 05, 2015 9:44 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Anyone interested in a Group Buy?
Interested is a couple HSS bits.

-jd
Author:  Mike OMelia [ Fri Jun 05, 2015 2:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Anyone interested in a Group Buy?
A Group Buy is a "labor of love". Lot of work. Lot of responsibility. IMHO, if you want this, you should do this. I don't see a huge advantage in the cost reduction (25 vs 1). Of course $20 is better than $82. Everybody that wants one says so. When you get to 25 you ask for checks. Be aware of problems with shipping to foreign countries (exchange rates etc). I'd limit it to lower 48.

Oh, and yes, I will take one. :) Good luck.

Mike

Edit: My advice is based in my doing group buys for AST Shell (Zip Flex).
Author:  George L [ Fri Jun 05, 2015 3:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Anyone interested in a Group Buy?
Now that I realize the bit is for those enclosed tuners, I'm no longer interested.
Author:  AR15DCM [ Sun Jun 07, 2015 1:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Anyone interested in a Group Buy?
Mike O'Melia wrote:
A Group Buy is a "labor of love". Lot of work. Lot of responsibility. IMHO, if you want this, you should do this. I don't see a huge advantage in the cost reduction (25 vs 1). Of course $20 is better than $82. Everybody that wants one says so. When you get to 25 you ask for checks. Be aware of problems with shipping to foreign countries (exchange rates etc). I'd limit it to lower 48.

Oh, and yes, I will take one. :) Good luck.

Mike

Edit: My advice is based in my doing group buys for AST Shell (Zip Flex).


Well that is just it... I don't have the mind set to tackle this right now... I am on some pretty heavy duty meds and I have never done it before to boot.

I emailed and PM'd Lance K. about it, and he has not replied so I guess that is a big fat No. Anyone else willing to organize it? I have done all of the research and found the manufacturer and gotten the prices...Will forward all email I have pertaining to it...
Author:  Ben-Had [ Sun Jun 07, 2015 2:52 pm ]
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I mean for a buck why don't you just tell everyone where to get them and let them do it on their own?
Author:  Alex Kleon [ Sun Jun 07, 2015 3:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Anyone interested in a Group Buy?
Lance is often away for his daughters' equestrian events on weekends. He'll tell you one way or another, Dean.
Author:  printer2 [ Sun Jun 07, 2015 5:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Anyone interested in a Group Buy?
AR15DCM wrote:
Mike O'Melia wrote:
I have done all of the research and found the manufacturer and gotten the prices...


Kindly ignore my PM then.
Author:  AR15DCM [ Sun Jun 07, 2015 10:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Anyone interested in a Group Buy?
Ben-Had wrote:
I mean for a buck why don't you just tell everyone where to get them and let them do it on their own?


If you all want to pay that much sure I will be happy to. The price will go way up.


BIT COST
HSS 1 $10.45
HSS 10 $9.94
HSS 25 $9.08
Carbide 1 $21.93
Carbide 10 $21.07
Carbide 25 $19.87

FREIGHT COST
HSS 1 $23.13
HSS 10 $29.12
HSS 25 $40.26
Carbide 1 $23.13
Carbide 10 $35.12
Carbide 25 $51.39



Contact Helen Wang: helenwang@cqsxgj.com
Just let her know Dean Miller had been working with her on the pricing/shipping etc...

The dimensions were modified from what was posted earlier in the thread, these should be correct.

D1: 7.8mm
D2: 9.9mm
L1: 10mm
L2: 84mm
L3: 33mm


Attachment:
StepDrillBit-Dimensions.png
Author:  Mike OMelia [ Mon Jun 08, 2015 12:25 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Anyone interested in a Group Buy?
printer2 wrote:
AR15DCM wrote:
Mike O'Melia wrote:
I have done all of the research and found the manufacturer and gotten the prices...


Kindly ignore my PM then.


I am completely confused as to how I got "quoted" that way. Those are not my words. Just so it is clear, I'm gonna craw daddy out of this thread.
Author:  AR15DCM [ Mon Jun 08, 2015 8:35 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Anyone interested in a Group Buy?
Well why don't you ask a question instead of being suspicious and quite frankly, a little accusatory ?

If you want a Carbide drill bit and 25 people join in the group buy it works like this simple math....

To buy a Carbide bit quantity of 25, each bit is $19.87 each
To ship 25 Carbide bits is $51.39. If you have 25 people buying bits that shiping cost is spread across them at $2.05 shipping each.

$19.87 per bit
$ 2.05 Shipping
$21.92 Total Cost to U.S.
+ what another $2 to your house ?

Did I take everything into account ? Maybe not. I asked for someone who has done this before to help out. NO ONE offered to help!!!!

Your appreciation for what I have tried to do really just shows me that my time has really been wasted on a few folks that really are just in it for themselves and don't think about anything else but.

I can assure you that I will never bother to do something gratis for this board again. Thanks for nothing.
Author:  AR15DCM [ Mon Jun 08, 2015 9:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Anyone interested in a Group Buy?
And, before I get accused of something again... Here is the latest email I received from Helen Wang after I had changed the dimensions of the drill bit as was noted in the thread.

Attachment:
Drill Bit Pricing and Drawing 6-8-2015.pdf
Author:  AR15DCM [ Mon Jun 08, 2015 9:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Anyone interested in a Group Buy?
printer2 wrote:
AR15DCM wrote:
Mike O'Melia wrote:
I have done all of the research and found the manufacturer and gotten the prices...


Kindly ignore my PM then.



I never received a PM from you.
Author:  printer2 [ Mon Jun 08, 2015 1:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Anyone interested in a Group Buy?
AR15DCM wrote:
printer2 wrote:

Kindly ignore my PM then.



I never received a PM from you.


That is odd, well then then ignore ignoring me. idunno
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