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Author:  Michiyuki Kubo [ Fri May 30, 2014 7:01 am ]
Post subject:  Looking for stippling info

Anyone have off hand some good tutorial, videos or info on doing stippling for carving? An older poster Bailey had posted some great stuff with stippling effect and he said he used a nail set to do it. Thanks in advance.

Author:  cphanna [ Fri May 30, 2014 6:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Looking for stippling info

Michiyuki, if you could find and post a photo of the sort of stippling effect you're after, then I think the good carvers out here could point you to some appropriate resources. My solution when something like this comes up is to just pick up some scrap of the right species and experiment with various techniques. But I'm not on any kind of schedule, so I can afford the time it takes me to do that. Good luck with your project!
Patrick

Author:  Michiyuki Kubo [ Fri May 30, 2014 7:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Looking for stippling info

viewtopic.php?f=10117&t=26558

That was what i was looking at, I have seen some other guys do something similar and was wondering about the technique they used and specific tools they used to do it. The gentleman that had created that topic said he used palm pressure with a punch tool or nail set. I have never worked with those before and it would be great if someone had some bookmarked stuff they could send me.

I am trying to ultimately decide on what to do with a "background" because leaving it sheer kind of looks plain to me. a ripple or something to throw in there like stippling would look more pleasing to the eye.

Thanks Patrick

Author:  Greg B [ Fri May 30, 2014 7:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Looking for stippling info

There's a ton of tutorials and stuff on youtube. Search for woodcarving, gunstocks stippling, etc. Leaving the background untreated looks kind of plain to most people, which is why stippling is traditional. ;) The most common type is just a bunch of dots (stipples) done with a simple punch, but there are many variations. Probably pebbling is the second most common. You can make your own tool for this, or you can buy a punch that does a few at once for a more uniform look. Leather craft suppliers sell several types of pebble punches. (you might also want to look up western belt tooling - similar technique)

I've seen numerous other styles of stippling: little asterisks, scales, cross hatches, diamonds, etc.

Author:  Michiyuki Kubo [ Fri May 30, 2014 7:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Looking for stippling info

Do you always use palm pressure? I would think a tap of the hammer is necessary. It is almost 3am, so i will look at youtube tomorrow for vids. Thanks Greg.

Author:  RusRob [ Fri May 30, 2014 8:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Looking for stippling info

Google Search works really well... As does YouTube... laughing6-hehe

In the time you made your last post I found all of these... beehive

How about this:

http://guitarluthier.blogspot.com/2013/01/how-to-stipple-wood.html

Or this:


http://www.woodworkersinstitute.com/page.asp?p=1067

Or this:


http://woodbarter.com/threads/tried-my- ... oday.7361/


Maybe this:





Or these two?






Author:  cphanna [ Fri May 30, 2014 8:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Looking for stippling info

MIchiyuki, I am glad you posted that link. Already you have several responses. I will sort through them, too. I haven't seen them yet. I have a hunch some of these effects might have been achieved with leather working punches, pushed into the wood with hand pressure. But, as I said, I haven't watched any of the other links yet, so I could be way wrong about that. Regardless, experimentation is always the best way to go, whether you have a set of stipple punches or whether you improvise your own tools. Take your time and do your research and your experimentation and you will meet your own goals! Best of luck to you.
Patrick

Author:  maxin [ Sat May 31, 2014 8:46 am ]
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Lets vote to give rusrob a medal for being a great "googler and letting us all know about it" or maybe just suggesting a polite, non condescending post would have said -- here's some stuff I found on the internet

Author:  wbergman [ Sat May 31, 2014 2:44 pm ]
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I did not find it condescending. Maybe if someone made a statement to 'just go Google instead of bother us', it might be. But in this case, the best "finds" were shared.

Author:  RusRob [ Sat May 31, 2014 4:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Looking for stippling info

My apologies if I sounded condescending I certainly did not mean it to sound that way... It was my attempt at a little sarcastic humor considering the recent post about the search engine here at the forum.
Had my intention been mean I certainly would not have posted the results I found on the topic not would I have taken the time to even do a search.

A while after I posted it I re-read it and thought it may have been taken the wrong way so I sent Michiyuki a pm explaining it was my attempt at a little humor.

I actually find the topic quite interesting since some day I would like to try my had at carving.

So apologies to all who found it mean hearted. Not my intention at all. Sometimes the written word can be read many ways.

Cheers,
Bob

Author:  Michiyuki Kubo [ Sat May 31, 2014 6:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Looking for stippling info

Thanks for the videos, was trying to get a carver so come out of hiding here!

Patrick, i agree i have found much better info from practice and experimentation than books. I still like to go in with a little bit of prep I didnt buy a whole stash of wood to mess with so i am kind of making it a rule. Finish these two guitars before i start buying more wood (which is kind of a addiction in itself). I have to do some more looking up on these tools. I was not really aware of these types of tools, never really thought about it until recently actually.

Hey maxin, I can see where it may look like he was being condescending, but in all actuality, i believe Bob was just a little mispoken and he was joking about something from another thread. No harm no foul. Sometimes we all get misunderstood once in a while.

Author:  maxin [ Sun Jun 01, 2014 2:11 pm ]
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All good - thank you for the clarification

Author:  Chris Paulick [ Mon Jun 02, 2014 5:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Looking for stippling info

I used a power carver (pneumatic dentist drill type ) with a small carbide ball mill to do the stippling. Although it removes wood it was a lot faster then traditional hammering of a punch. There are some YouTubes showing power carving technics of stippling out there also. I think there is also info at engraving YTs.
It's also a really fast way to take the background areas down.

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Author:  Chris Paulick [ Mon Jun 02, 2014 5:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Looking for stippling info

Here are a couple more pics I found that might be usefull to show some stages.

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Author:  Michiyuki Kubo [ Mon Jun 02, 2014 6:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Looking for stippling info

Chris,

Thank you for the info, I will have to check that out for sure. Love your carvings.

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