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Author:  Theo [ Fri May 30, 2014 5:10 am ]
Post subject:  Glue for wooden pick guard over french polish?

Pretty much as the title states, I'm wondering what kind of glue people would recommend for gluing a wooden pick guard to a french polished top.

Thanks

Author:  kencierp [ Fri May 30, 2014 5:29 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Glue for wooden pick guard over french polish?

I am not a huge fan of pick guards, my hunch is the added weight is not a plus for sound quality/production - but seems it matters not since so many guitars have them. Plus for some playing styles they are a must have -- but Willey's guitar in on the cover of AG mag looks crap but still going.

Even Elmer's sticks well to (wax free) shellac -- I'd use thin double sided tape if only to help prevent sound hole cracks that could occur if the pick guard wood and the sound-board wood expand and contract at different rates with humidity change.

Author:  B. Howard [ Fri May 30, 2014 5:33 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Glue for wooden pick guard over french polish?

The same adhesive sheet that is used on lacquer and other guitar finishes works for plastic pickguards on a FP top so I don't see why it wouldn't work here. I would completely finish all sides of a wooden pick guard before installing to minimize movement.

Author:  Tim Mullin [ Fri May 30, 2014 7:05 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Glue for wooden pick guard over french polish?

+1 on the pressure-sensitive adhesive sheets. I've used the 3M product that stewmac sells: http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Pickguards/Pickguard_materials/Pickguard_Adhesive_Sheet.html, but LMI sells something similar (if it's not identical): http://www.lmii.com/products/mostly-not-wood/pickguard-material/transfer-adhesive Take a look at Robbie O'Brien's video on how to use this properly: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kVRmu5_k8I

Where I've done a wood pickguard (like the one on my avatar), it has always matched a fingerboard and/or bridge, so I've treated it the same way with a bit of lemon oil after installation. No other finish, but seems to work fine.

Author:  ernie [ Fri May 30, 2014 8:14 am ]
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I/ve used fish glue on a small spalted sycamore pickguard.intended for a tenor pineapple uke.

Author:  Hesh [ Fri May 30, 2014 8:40 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Glue for wooden pick guard over french polish?

+2 for the pressure-sensitive adhesive [:Y:]

Also - do you know the "hinge" method using masking tape to make a hinge to locate the guard when installing - works great.

Author:  RusRob [ Fri May 30, 2014 10:11 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Glue for wooden pick guard over french polish?

Here is a "Hack" for ya... beehive

How about Velcro?

Then you can change your pick guard to suit your mood... laughing6-hehe

Author:  Joe Sallis [ Fri May 30, 2014 10:19 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Glue for wooden pick guard over french polish?

I'm wondering the same question at the moment. But like ken I am concerned about the different expansion rates of contrasting wood causing a crack on the soundboard. I did wonder about rather than gluing the whole of the wooden pick guard on, having extremely thin post-like shims so that there was only a few points of contact between the sound board and the pick guard.
Does this sound like a sensible idea?

Author:  jfmckenna [ Fri May 30, 2014 11:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Glue for wooden pick guard over french polish?

fwiw I glue my wooden guards onto plastic then use the adhesive sheets for reasons stated.

Author:  Theo [ Fri May 30, 2014 2:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Glue for wooden pick guard over french polish?

Thanks for the tips

it seems like the pressure sensitive sheets might be the way to go

Hesh-I recall seeing the tape hinge on a Dan Erlwine video a while back, I'll have to go back to refresh my memory- thanks

jfmckenna- what kind of plastic sheet? how thin?

I've never done a pickguard before, and have not really thought much about them, hadn't even considered the expansion contraction issue :o. I've mostly built ukes up till now and am moving in the guitar direction, even then I'm not that fond of them but this time it might be a good option to cover a cosmetic issue on the bottom edge of a rosette. That, and my son who will be playing it a lot wanted one, I wasn't originally planning it, but when the time came it seemed like an easy out for a poorly routed rosette channel :roll: . I like the fact that this is one choice I don't have to make right away, who knows maybe I'll bag the pickguard in the end, I'll make it and see if its better with or without. This is for a guitar I have going for the local woods building chlalange

Author:  jfmckenna [ Fri May 30, 2014 2:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Glue for wooden pick guard over french polish?

I don't remember how thin the plastic sheet is but it was thinnest I could get in black. The black makes a nice line. Most of the wood I use was a very thin walnut burl.

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