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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 10:08 am 
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I'm curious to the the number of trimmer you guys must have in your shop.
I know that only one might be needed but for convinience sake and knowing what you know and doing what you do, how many is ideal for you? And what different applications do you use the particular ones for?

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 10:28 am 
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It kinda depends on how you define the word "need". laughing6-hehe

I think that you only 'need' one. But, I have two. I have a Bosch Colt that is my little work horse. I also have a DeWalt that I am setting up for a semi-permanent home in a binding routing fixture.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 10:50 am 
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I have one for every operation that I do with a laminate trimmer. I "need" that many because I hate tearing down, changing bits and setting up to make one cut. I leave the bit in and the fixture attached, which leaves me time to build guitars!

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:23 am 
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one set-up with a flush cut bit for trimming tops and backs flust to rims, one set-up for binding channeling and one hanging around for miscellaneous tasks so that you don’t have to mess with the other two’s set-up


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:39 am 
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I have 2 but would like to have 4 someday. They would be used as follows:

1) flush cut

2) .080 binding channel (I like thick bindings)

3) .115 purfing channel

4) and one dedicated to a Cochran circle cutter/rosette cutter that I hope to own someday

But you really only need one.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:50 am 
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It is like guitars...how many do you need????

ONE MORE THAN YOU HAVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:55 am 
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Yeah Andy bro you're not competitive....... :D laughing6-hehe

Next we will be seeing who has the BIGGEST laminate trimmer...... :D


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 12:39 pm 
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Two that are more or less dedicated (binding rabbet and circle cutter) and one that's free for everything else. Unlike some builders, I don't dedicate one just to avoid bit changes; has to be some kind of jig that it sits in that I don't want to have to readjust.

We're not counting the full size routers here, are we?

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 12:43 pm 
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I have 6 lam trimmers, plus 3 other larger routers .... one is almost in the table, another has never had anything but a good flush trim bit in it (it was a crappy Skil, that I got with CC points about to expire), the last is a large 3 hp that was too good a deal to pass up (40 points off, because the carton was damaged ... all the routers were perfectly fine, but HD or somewhere wouldnt accept them in the broken packaging. Oh .. and an air powered die grinder setup for inlay .. and I want another of those too setup to route off finish for bridges.

I have one lam trimmer set up for nothing but binding ledges - all I ever do is set the height of the binding as needed, the depth never needs resetting - 85 thou.

That said, I want six more lam trimmers :twisted: .... I still am changing bits and depths and stuff ... if Olson needed 60, I figure I need at least 20 to catch up !!!

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:05 pm 
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Well! I see that we have the makings of another SYNDROME! wow7-eyes

We have WAS, TAS, GAS and now:

RAS (Router Aquisition Syndrome) [uncle]

Since I have four trimmer/routers and a dremel... I have a moderate case. I do suppose it is a subset of TAS. That would be RAS-TAS???? laughing6-hehe

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:20 pm 
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WaldenWorx wrote:
Well! I see that we have the makings of another SYNDROME! wow7-eyes

We have WAS, TAS, GAS and now:

RAS (Router Aquisition Syndrome) [uncle]

Since I have four trimmer/routers and a dremel... I have a moderate case. I do suppose it is a subset of TAS. That would be RAS-TAS???? laughing6-hehe


not a new affliction syndrome, merely a singular symptom manifestation of debilitating TAS :D


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:45 pm 
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Oh almost forgot .. two Dremels !!!! one for polishing frets, the other setup for routing bridge relief grooves ...

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:55 pm 
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Like Howard, I have that stays in the binding jig and one in the circle cutting jig, and a third one for the the rest. One Dremel and two big routers (one stays in the router table), and that's it. I suppose I could use one or two more laminate trimmers, but I wouldn't know what to do with 60 of them.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:22 pm 
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A very mild case or RAS here. I have one in my binding jig ,one for flush trim,and one for Whatever.
Also have a big PC in the router table,and a Dremel for inlay. Eat Drink

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:38 pm 
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Lots more...

I am still smarting the loss of the PC310. What a bonehead thing for them to do.

So I am buying all the new 310's I can afford. I have been working hard this year to tighten up the speed and efficiency of some processes, and not having to change or adjust bits sure saves a lot of time.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:47 pm 
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Brock Poling wrote:
I am still smarting the loss of the PC310. What a bonehead thing for them to do.


Yes, the 310 is a great tool for sure. I see they also have a model called 309 with similar specifications. Do you (or anyone else) know if this a new model designed to replace the 310? And if you have both, how do they compare?

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:57 pm 
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I think I have 5 Ryobi trimmers and a couple of PC's. Among my favorite jigs is one that has a half inch wide flat bottom bit and a base that allows the bit to ride on top of the sound board and back and trim the purfling and binding flush with the top or back. Then just a stroke or two with the scrapper and that process is done.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:59 pm 
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Very cool John .. now why didnt I think of that one !!!! next on the list once I get thru a couple circle rosette jigs and a bender for a student ....

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 4:44 pm 
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I only have 1 trimmer...for now. And three other routers that get a good workout - Bosch EVS1617 for general plunge work, PC690 for fixed base, and a big bad Triton in the table, lovely tool. And a PC 310 for too many things - binding machine, rosette jig, etc. Since it's now ded, methinks I'll get a few Bosch Colts. Some day.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:40 pm 
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Hi Arnt,
The 309 was a cheaper more basic version of the 310. It has been in production for awhile, but I believe is also being discontinued.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:54 pm 
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I was just told by Tool Plus that they have over 1000 unit of PC310 in stock.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:06 am 
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I have 6 of them... I bought 4 of them from someone on the forum during a swap meet a while back and use most of them.

1 is set up in a jig to cut rosettes

1 is setup in a jig to cut binding and purfling channels.

1 is set up to cut off excess top and back plate material

1 is set up in the plastic trimmer base to cut the channels for truss rod extensions in the body of the guitar.

1 is a spare

and lastly one has a bent shaft (I dont know how that happened) but I will keep it to use for parts.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 1:13 am 
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If purchased by July 31st, you can get a $30 rebate for the 310 from PC.


http://media.ptg-online.com/20070501121638_PCB-0952%20310%20$30%20RebateForm.pdf

I have two laminate trimmers. One is dedicated to the binding jig, the other is for everything else.

I also have two routers one is dedicated to the router table, the other for everything else.

But like any tool...you can never have enough. :D

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 1:27 am 
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blain1976 wrote:
If purchased by July 31st, you can get a $30 rebate for the 310 from PC.


http://media.ptg-online.com/20070501121638_PCB-0952%20310%20$30%20RebateForm.pdf

I have two laminate trimmers. One is dedicated to the binding jig, the other is for everything else.

I also have two routers one is dedicated to the router table, the other for everything else.

But like any tool...you can never have enough. :D


That rebate is only through 2007.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 1:32 am 
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Doh. [headinwall]
Thanks for catching that. Sorry folks. No rebate.

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