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Author: | sharp_custom [ Wed Jul 09, 2008 1:40 pm ] |
Post subject: | Spiral Template Router Bit |
Does anyone know wher I can find a spiral down-cut template bit with a top bearing? I've found them for flush trim applications but nothing for template applications. thanks. |
Author: | Don Williams [ Wed Jul 09, 2008 2:01 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Spiral Template Router Bit |
sharp_custom wrote: Does anyone know wher I can find a spiral down-cut template bit with a top bearing? I've found them for flush trim applications but nothing for template applications. thanks. Please explain? Wouldn't you want a flush-trim bit for this? Whiteside makes a great top-double-bearing spiral bit for this. Woodcraft sells them http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx?familyid=8004. |
Author: | sharp_custom [ Wed Jul 09, 2008 2:10 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Spiral Template Router Bit |
Don Williams wrote: sharp_custom wrote: Does anyone know wher I can find a spiral down-cut template bit with a top bearing? I've found them for flush trim applications but nothing for template applications. thanks. Please explain? Wouldn't you want a flush-trim bit for this? Whiteside makes a great top-double-bearing spiral bit for this. Woodcraft sells them http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx?familyid=8004. Thanks Don. A flush trim bit won't work because I need for the free end to mill the piece while following a template above. |
Author: | Michael Dale Payne [ Wed Jul 09, 2008 2:43 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Spiral Template Router Bit |
Don Williams wrote: sharp_custom wrote: Does anyone know wher I can find a spiral down-cut template bit with a top bearing? I've found them for flush trim applications but nothing for template applications. thanks. Please explain? Wouldn't you want a flush-trim bit for this? Whiteside makes a great top-double-bearing spiral bit for this. Woodcraft sells them http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx?familyid=8004. I belive this is what Grumpy said he was using to trim tops and backs flush to rims |
Author: | WaddyThomson [ Wed Jul 09, 2008 2:54 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Spiral Template Router Bit |
Grumpy uses the Zip spiral flush trim bits that you can get at the BORG. |
Author: | sharp_custom [ Wed Jul 09, 2008 3:14 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Spiral Template Router Bit |
WaddyT wrote: Grumpy uses the Zip spiral flush trim bits that you can get at the BORG. Right. But I need a bit with the bearing on the other end (the one nearest the router collet). |
Author: | Chas Freeborn [ Wed Jul 09, 2008 3:17 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Spiral Template Router Bit |
I do all my template work with a rub collar and straight (or the occasional dovetail for neck joints) bits. The bits are cheaper, abundant and it's easier to adjust depth of cut. -C |
Author: | sharp_custom [ Wed Jul 09, 2008 3:19 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Spiral Template Router Bit |
Chas Freeborn wrote: I do all my template work with a rub collar and straight (or the occasional dovetail for neck joints) bits. The bits are cheaper, abundant and it's easier to adjust depth of cut. -C Straight bits are chipping the heck out of my projects. |
Author: | Chas Freeborn [ Wed Jul 09, 2008 3:23 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Spiral Template Router Bit |
"chipping" should not be a function of where the reference (collar or bearing) is. When I say "straight" I mean a cutter that does not have a contour. I use straight spiral bits for template work. I sense a need for a template tutorial.... -C |
Author: | sharp_custom [ Wed Jul 09, 2008 3:48 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Spiral Template Router Bit |
Chas Freeborn wrote: "chipping" should not be a function of where the reference (collar or bearing) is. When I say "straight" I mean a cutter that does not have a contour. I use straight spiral bits for template work. I sense a need for a template tutorial.... -C Yes, chipping has nothing to do with where the bearing is. However, my template is stationary and the material is only accessible from the top (the template is part of a larger fixture). So, the router is handheld and follows the template. Therefore, the bearing has to be on the collet side of the bit. That's why I am looking for a spiral or shear cutting template bit as opposed to a flush trim bit. I know what bits to use where and why. I am just looking for the bit I know will suit my needs. |
Author: | Kent Chasson [ Wed Jul 09, 2008 4:04 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Spiral Template Router Bit |
Try this link to a previous thread... viewtopic.php?f=10101&t=17275&hilit=router+bit If it doesn't work, search for my name and "spiral bit". I ended up buying the Oemco bit. It's a monster but it works great. edit: I just saw that you are thinking hand-held. The Oemco bit is way to big for that. The other one mentioned might work. By the way, thanks for that info, Charles. |
Author: | sharp_custom [ Wed Jul 09, 2008 4:13 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Spiral Template Router Bit |
Kent Chasson wrote: Try this link to a previous thread... http://www.luthiersforum.com/forum/view ... router+bit If it doesn't work, search for my name and "spiral bit". I ended up buying the Oemco bit. It's a monster but it works great. edit: I just saw that you are thinking hand-held. The Oemco bit is way to big for that. The other one mentioned might work. By the way, thanks for that info, Charles. Thanks for the help. Looks like I may be able to use the other one. Thanks again!! |
Author: | Chris Paulick [ Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:10 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Spiral Template Router Bit |
There was just a discussion on that at MIMF and I have the 2" cut length upcut flush cut trim bit with the bearing on the bottom that I use in my router table which I believe is only made by Whiteside. I contacted them to see if they made one with a top bearing and they replied that they don't have a way to make a carbide shaft that a bearing could be put on at this time. They hope to be able to make that type of bit in the future. But they make an upcut and a downcut and a up/downcut flush cut trim bit. |
Author: | Kim [ Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:23 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Spiral Template Router Bit |
sharp_custom wrote: Chas Freeborn wrote: "chipping" should not be a function of where the reference (collar or bearing) is. When I say "straight" I mean a cutter that does not have a contour. I use straight spiral bits for template work. I sense a need for a template tutorial.... -C Yes, chipping has nothing to do with where the bearing is. However, my template is stationary and the material is only accessible from the top (the template is part of a larger fixture). So, the router is handheld and follows the template. Therefore, the bearing has to be on the collet side of the bit. That's why I am looking for a spiral or shear cutting template bit as opposed to a flush trim bit. I know what bits to use where and why. I am just looking for the bit I know will suit my needs. Am I missing something here? Why in this application can't a normal 'no bearing' straight cut spiral bit be used with a simple template guide fitted to the base to follow the template? Attachment: st-router3.jpg Cheers Kim |
Author: | Chris Paulick [ Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:32 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Spiral Template Router Bit |
My guess would be the template isn't off set for a router bushing and is set up for a flush cut bit. |
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