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mkellyvrod
 Post subject: Re: Rosettes
PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 6:02 pm 
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Joe, that's what I'm talking about - classic "deco" - definitely something out of the 1920s-1940s. Great look IMO!
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Joe Beaver
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Thank you Martin. I kind of worked out a whole art deco thing for this guitar. It should be interesting if nothing else.

That is a terrible picture. Let me see if I can post a better one.

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I'll throw in a few...


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All are very inventive RN. Is the gear one real gears set in epoxy?

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That one was for a friend that is a writer who plays to escape the stresses of writing(what stress is beyond me.??). So I made the rosette out of escapement gears I got from a watch repair guy. He actually got the visual pun.
Bad picture, but the guitar is long gone so can't get better ones.

I just routered a trough as usual, put down a "floor" of veneer, arranged the gears and tacked them down with thin CA, and then just filled the "pool" with thin CA just a few drops at a time so it wouldn't take forever to set, or set off the exothermic boiling that turns CA opaque white. That also does away with trapped air bubbles like thicker CA or epoxy always has given me. It, I believe, is less likely to yellow with age than epoxy, but I can't prove that, so take it with a block of salt.
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Ah, thanks for posting those, Marcus.
YOU are the one that gave inspiration for our rosette pictured above.
The 3-D, shadow effect of that 3rd rosette you pictured is what got the imagination flowing for me.
I just couldn't remember who had done that. So I owe you!
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Wow, I am flattered! I'm glad to have inspired at least someone around here!

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RN thanks for the info on the excaped gears. That is very original

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RN thanks for the info on the excaped gears. That is very original

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Wow, you guys are good. Joe-awesome. RN-love the gears. Waddy-stellar. All the rest are quite inspirational....

I don't find myself drawn to the "Art-Deco" blocks so much, but can certainly appreciate the work involved.

I guess it's really the one place where your creative side can truly shine.....hard to come up with original designs, tho.....will keep trying....
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I really can't claim to be the artist on this one -- that credit goes to Nature. All I've done is give it a simple frame with purfling. I've only just inlayed this one this week -- a light coat of shellac gives a hint at how spectacular it will look under finish.

This wood is "Curly Birch" (Betula pendula var. carelica). A professional colleague of mine in southern Sweden has this growing on his property and uses it to craft turned pens. He thought it might find a place in a guitar at some point and loaded me up with some recently cut chunks on one of my business trips. On my return to New Zealand, the Biosecurity folks at Auckland airport took exception to the pieces that had any bark still attached and confiscated 2/3 of the pieces! After two years seasoning, and relocation to Kenya, this extraordinary wood is now part of a contemporary rendition of a Ramirez classical.


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wow, this is one for the bookmarks! congratulations all!

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This is end-grain mesquite from a branch that fell in the front yard. Adds a local touch.

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^ this is really great!!!

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Here's one I just finished.


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Ted, that is beautiful !!! What am I seeing behind the sound hole?

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Really outstanding work, thanks for sharing the pics.

Here's something I did a while back trying to develop a 'stock' rosette (all credit to Todd of course). It worked out pretty well.

I just glued together some wedges into a doughnut that can be 'sliced' for rosettes as needed.


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Ted, that is beautiful !!! What am I seeing behind the sound hole?


Thanks Joe.
What you see behind the sound hole is this segmented backstrip, body just ready to be bound.


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This is the best rosette thread I have ever seen. WOW

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Ted, Outstanding!!!

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How you got all of those angles right I will never know. Excellent work!!!

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How you got all of those angles right I will never know. Excellent work!!!


Joe,

I just cut a bunch of random angles from scrap, sanded them down on the belt sander, then fit them all together, flood with CA, then flood with CA before each slice is cut.

Again totally random as an experiment. Next time I'll have a more definitive plan -or not - I kinda like random.

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Ted, Outstanding!!!


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I must agree this is a great thread. Many beautiful and unique ideas. Joe, that is a true art deco rosette, I have to say I hear "art deco" applied to rosettes from time to time and get a bit confused. Typically the designs are bauhaus, de stijl, construstivist or other, but rarely art deco. Ted, nice work, and that wine burgundy archtop you created is a tour de force. Congrats to all on great work. Timo
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