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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 6:50 pm 
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Here is the latest Luthier Tips du Jour video -The topic is shellac.
This video as well as all my other videos are available via my website http://www.obrienguitars.com/videos/, LMI's website or on Youtube.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 12:16 am 
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Should you be concerned about the flammability of the shellac and alcohol mix if you are spraying it in a non-explosion proof but well ventilated spray booth? No open flames would be present but non xp fan motors and lights would be on.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:40 am 
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would you ever use bulls eye spray shellac for a finish?


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:54 am 
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micahmed wrote:
would you ever use bulls eye spray shellac for a finish?


I never would because I prefer mixing my own flakes but yes, a spray shellac could be used as a finish if done right.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:56 am 
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Logan wrote:
Should you be concerned about the flammability of the shellac and alcohol mix if you are spraying it in a non-explosion proof but well ventilated spray booth? No open flames would be present but non xp fan motors and lights would be on.


One should always be concerned about safety when working with anything flammable.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:09 am 
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Robbie O'Brien wrote:
Logan wrote:
Should you be concerned about the flammability of the shellac and alcohol mix if you are spraying it in a non-explosion proof but well ventilated spray booth? No open flames would be present but non xp fan motors and lights would be on.


One should always be concerned about safety when working with anything flammable.

An interesting thread I followed some years back when I had this same question.
http://forums.finewoodworking.com/fine-woodworking-knots/finishing/spraying-shellac-and-explosion-hazard
Hope it helps.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 7:05 pm 
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For us Canadians who can't get everclear, what kind of alcohol is good to be used? Is methyl hydrate ok?


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:01 am 
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I use 99% Isopropyl as recommended by Jeff at supplier Wood Essence in Saskatoon - available in pharmacies as rubbing alcohol, has to be 99%, not 70%
I have been using this for years, seems to work fine.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 12:44 pm 
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micahmed wrote:
would you ever use bulls eye spray shellac for a finish?


I read that many of the pre-made shellacs are not de-waxed. I do use this kind of shellac on jigs.


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Stefan wrote:
For us Canadians who can't get everclear, what kind of alcohol is good to be used? Is methyl hydrate ok?

Yep, methyl hydrate works too.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 7:50 am 
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Be careful with Methyl Hydrate.
A quote from Canadian Woodworking:
"Methyl hydrate will certainly dissolve shellac but all is definitely not well. Methyl hydrate is a carcinogen and is readily absorbed through the skin. The thin latex or nitrile gloves most people use when finishing will not stop it being absorbed. The Canadian government in all its wisdom does not allow the sale of denatured alcohol in Canada but had no qualms about letting the much more dangerous methyl hydrate to be sold in every hardware and paint store around. I use 99% isopropyl alcohol for shellac work and find it quite satisfactory"


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Stefan wrote:
For us Canadians who can't get everclear, what kind of alcohol is good to be used? Is methyl hydrate ok?

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