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 Post subject: Black tuner buttons
PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 11:30 am 
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I am building an all-Alaskan-Yellow-Cedar parlor guitar with some abalone and ebony accents. I would like to have open-back tuners with black buttons, and I can't afford the more expensive sets. I am looking for something in the $50-60 range in nickel with black buttons. And 15:1 or 18:1 would be an additional bonus.

I have searched the internet fo longer than I care to admit, and haven't come up with any. Best I can find is some Golden Era with white buttons, and then replace them with black.

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 Post subject: Re: Black tuner buttons
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These might work. Search for 232552341205 on the big online auction site.

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 Post subject: Re: Black tuner buttons
PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 12:48 pm 
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Hey Ed - I just went to all parts.com and searched for "black tuner buttons" and the search returned a couple of choices.

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 Post subject: Re: Black tuner buttons
PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 1:05 pm 
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Thanks for that - did not know about All Parts.

There is no dearth of black buttons:

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=guitar%20blak%20tuner%20buttons&ssPageName=GSTL

But I have only been able to find gold with black buttons (not a fan) and ukulele with black buttons (to small) until the set that John J came up with.

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 Post subject: Re: Black tuner buttons
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Hey...

Check these vids out -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZLeR9VqYY0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB3RVVye-gw

You can buy replacement buttons from stew mac -

http://www.stewmac.com/Hardware_and_Par ... Knobs.html

Hope that helps.

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 Post subject: Re: Black tuner buttons
PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 6:13 pm 
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Thanks - I will probably end up getting the 97-18's and switching buttons

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 Post subject: Re: Black tuner buttons
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Here's a recent video by Dave Collins on replacing buttons.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VExGfSOnaSo&feature=youtu.be

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 Post subject: Re: Black tuner buttons
PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 10:29 pm 
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Hesh - that is exactly how I replaced the buttons 2 years ago on a friend's 0-17 that he got new for his bar mitzvah in 1952 - guitar in perfect condition because he never learned to play it, but those buttons were crumbling in your hand.

I saw a video on taking off the metal buttons where they used a claw hammer and pried them up with the body carefully clamped in a vice.

Thanks all - Ed

And Hesh - who was that playing the background music in David's video?



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 Post subject: Re: Black tuner buttons
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I think that that's Blind Blake but I'll ask Dave to be sure and get back to you tomorrow.

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 Post subject: Re: Black tuner buttons
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Ruby50 wrote:
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Thanks for that - did not know about All Parts.

There is no dearth of black buttons:

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=guitar%20blak%20tuner%20buttons&ssPageName=GSTL

But I have only been able to find gold with black buttons (not a fan) and ukulele with black buttons (to small) until the set that John J came up with.

Ed


Your link shows some nickel open back tuners with black buttons for 40 bucks. They look like Grover knock-offs. Could be okay.

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 Post subject: Re: Black tuner buttons
PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 6:56 am 
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You are right, but they are gold colored - not my preference. Thanks for noticing.

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 Post subject: Re: Black tuner buttons
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Have you looked at the Rubner tuners? A little more expensive, but I've had good luck with them on mandolins.

Edited: Dang autocorrect! Who would want "rubber" tuners!?

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 Post subject: Re: Black tuner buttons
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Ruby50 wrote:
Ken

You are right, but they are gold colored - not my preference. Thanks for noticing.

Ed


They look like nickel to me. I think the background color in the pic is throwing you off.

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 Post subject: Re: Black tuner buttons
PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 10:51 am 
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Do a search on aliexpress.com for black tuners. Some of them are very cheap, probably poor quality. but the first set listed seems like a possibility.

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