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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 10:14 pm 
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So do you wet sand, level and polish out? Maybe that's a dumb question IDK but any finish I've ever used you have to do that.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 10:23 pm 
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Great video Robbie. like Ed, I would also like to know the pros and cons of Tru Oil vs Wipe On Poly? Thanks.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 10:24 pm 
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Ed Haney wrote:
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In the Tip you mentioned Wipe On Poly too. What are the pros and cons of Tru Oil vs Wipe On Poly?
Ed


Wipe on poly is another oil varnish that is also very user friendly. Since it has a resin in it, it offers more protection than shellac. It works like true oil ion that it builds in layers. Since these finishes are applied in very thin layers they do not lend themselves well to final leveling and buffing like a shellac or lacquer would. You can however, level by wet sanding in between coats to guarantee a level surface as you apply your final coat. If done properly you can still get a glossy finish. I think these finishes lend themselves well to satin finishes. If I want a glossy finish I use lacquer or urethane.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 10:30 pm 
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I've applied wipe-on poly much the same way in your video.
I level sand the final coat with 1500 and hand buff, and get a great flat shiny finish.
Tru-oil is just unpredicteable to as to what it will harden on and what it won't.
That's what got me started with the wipe-on poly, it hardened when tru-oil wouldn't.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 1:35 pm 
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Robbie,

Fantastic - I was just asking questions about Tru Oil on necks - this toot answered all my questions. Thanks!


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 1:50 pm 
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Corky Long wrote:
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Fantastic - I was just asking questions about Tru Oil on necks - this toot answered all my questions. Thanks!


Great! I am glad you found the video useful.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 2:04 am 
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Nice video, Robbie. I always like your videos. I've been able to get very glossy finishes with Tru Oil, but it certainly takes MANY applications. Helpful, too, if the last thin coats are sprayed.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 12:00 pm 
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Totally agree with Aaron
would happily use it on a neck or even B&S but never on a top again
Same reasons


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 7:58 am 
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Robbie, I have one last question. Since Tru-Oil isn't ideal for tops, would It be ok to french polish over Tru-Oil?


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 8:30 am 
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Ron M. wrote:
Robbie, I have one last question. Since Tru-Oil isn't ideal for tops, would It be ok to french polish over Tru-Oil?

I guess so but why? Just go with a French polish or a true oil.


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Robbie O'Brien wrote:
Ron M. wrote:
Robbie, I have one last question. Since Tru-Oil isn't ideal for tops, would It be ok to french polish over Tru-Oil?

I guess so but why? Just go with a French polish or a true oil.


Hi Robbie,
Because I already applied Tru-Oil to the top and then I read here and elsewhere that It's not as durable for tops. The Tru-Oil been drying for a month. Thanks.

Ron


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 9:43 am 
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Ron M. wrote:
Robbie O'Brien wrote:
Ron M. wrote:
Robbie, I have one last question. Since Tru-Oil isn't ideal for tops, would It be ok to french polish over Tru-Oil?

I guess so but why? Just go with a French polish or a true oil.


Hi Robbie,
Because I already applied Tru-Oil to the top and then I read here and elsewhere that It's not as durable for tops. The Tru-Oil been drying for a month. Thanks.

Ron


In this case I would do some testing on some scrap before applying to my guitar.


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I have a question on this thread as well . If I do the Back , sides , and neck with true oil , do I have to be extremely carefull on applying ( shellac or wipe on poly ) on the top to aviod the sides or is a little overlap ok ?

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WudWerkr wrote:
I have a question on this thread as well . If I do the Back , sides , and neck with true oil , do I have to be extremely carefull on applying ( shellac or wipe on poly ) on the top to aviod the sides or is a little overlap ok ?


If you apply the true oil first then everything is sealed. The reason they call it wipe on poly is cause it applies easily by wiping on but it also means that is wipes off easily too. :lol: Just don't get too messy during the application process


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Robbie O'Brien wrote:
In this case I would do some testing on some scrap before applying to my guitar.


Thanks Robbie.

Ron


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Robbie O'Brien wrote:
WudWerkr wrote:
I have a question on this thread as well . If I do the Back , sides , and neck with true oil , do I have to be extremely carefull on applying ( shellac or wipe on poly ) on the top to aviod the sides or is a little overlap ok ?


If you apply the true oil first then everything is sealed. The reason they call it wipe on poly is cause it applies easily by wiping on but it also means that is wipes off easily too. :lol: Just don't get too messy during the application process



Thanks , I guess I was wondering about the break point at the edge of the binding , tru-oil to poly . If the wipe on poly is carried past the corner ( wood binding ) it wont be a problem then ? right ? Or am I wondering about somthing that isnt really an issue ?

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WudWerkr wrote:
Robbie O'Brien wrote:
WudWerkr wrote:
I have a question on this thread as well . If I do the Back , sides , and neck with true oil , do I have to be extremely carefull on applying ( shellac or wipe on poly ) on the top to aviod the sides or is a little overlap ok ?


If you apply the true oil first then everything is sealed. The reason they call it wipe on poly is cause it applies easily by wiping on but it also means that is wipes off easily too. :lol: Just don't get too messy during the application process



Thanks , I guess I was wondering about the break point at the edge of the binding , tru-oil to poly . If the wipe on poly is carried past the corner ( wood binding ) it wont be a problem then ? right ? Or am I wondering about somthing that isnt really an issue ?


I don't think it would be a problem. I do this routinely with FP tops and lacquer or urethane back and sides. It would kin doff be the same principle but with true oil and wipe on poly.


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Thanks ! I appreciate the info . I have tru-oil ordered and will be giving this a shot soon.

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