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i am wanting to make an eastman pagelli archtop
its a very cool looking guitar

I am wondering about the top/back cruve and recurve - i have read that its not a flat top but i cannot see how much arch curve there is

and i cannot see any recurve

what do you think??

unfortunately there are no of these guitars in town so i cant find a real one too look at - just pictures

here is a link http://www.acousticvibesmusic.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=5_31&products_id=451

and another http://www.massstreetmusic.com/store/show_item/3008-Eastman-17-Pagelli-PG2


thanks!!!

You can see in the first link, middle top thumbnail, if you open, it's there.
It looks about an inch? at a guess, I've heard archtops can be made with an "induced" recurve, presumable with bracing recurved only, saving carving time for the top.
This would be similar to what I've been doing, flat rims on top, but with a 28 foot radiused top, which results in a slight recurve rather than a straight dome (looking for a bit more fundamental in the sound).
Maybe it could be done with a flat rim, recurved X (I don't know about the sound - archtops are not normally braced this way) and other braces on the top, fitting the bracing with cauls on the other side of the top (building board/ shaped cauls and go-bar deck?) to match the recurved braces, but I don't know how much a top could be "induced". An inch sounds a lot!

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The name catgut is confusing. There are two explanations for the mix up.

Catgut is an abbreviation of the word cattle gut. Gut strings are made from sheep or goat intestines, in the past even from horse, mule or donkey intestines.

Otherwise it could be from the word kitgut or kitstring. Kit meant fiddle, not kitten.

Hi, sorry, not many responses.
Have you tried google searches?
In case you haven't seen it, here's a link to videos about Pagelli http://www.customguitarvideo.com/2009/09/21/custom-guitar-video-pagelli/
Ladder-bracing could also be used to induce an arch, but I see Eastman says they are all hand carved.
Good luck
Colin

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The name catgut is confusing. There are two explanations for the mix up.

Catgut is an abbreviation of the word cattle gut. Gut strings are made from sheep or goat intestines, in the past even from horse, mule or donkey intestines.

Otherwise it could be from the word kitgut or kitstring. Kit meant fiddle, not kitten.

looks like a nice style of guitar.

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