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 Post subject: Luthier Lingo
PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 2:14 pm 
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Since I joined this form I've had the privelidge to learn many techniques, tips, and luthier lingo such as; flossing the cheeks, stickering, scaloping the braces, etc...

One thing always alluded me, what is CA it seems to be some king of glue but not sure what kind?

If any one has any other stupid questions please feel welcome to add them to this thread.

On the other hand, maybe we should compile our own luthiers dictionary, just a thought.

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 Post subject: Re: Luthier Lingo
PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 2:18 pm 
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Cyanoacrilate, which is super glue, or Krazy Glue.


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 Post subject: Re: Luthier Lingo
PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 2:25 pm 
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But be aware there are many viscosities of Cyanoacrilate extra thin, thin, medium thin, thick, medium thick and extra thick. Thin viscosities are designed for joints wher the materials to be joind are flush fitting with no gaps and quick or near instant set time, Thick viscosities are designed to fill gaps or give more open time. Plus not all CA is made equal.


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 Post subject: Re: Luthier Lingo
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And to add to what the other guys said try to if at all possible purchase your CA from a place that rotates stock and stores back-stock in their fridge. CA does not keep forever and typically I only get about 6 months to a year out of a bottle even stored in the fridge.

And...... be sure to seal any end grain, like on tops around the rosette, with shellac before using CA if you plan on using CA. CA can stain some woods by wicking into the end grain, shellac avoids this problem.

Lastly, if you ever date Madonna be sure to also have a bottle of CA debonder handy........


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 Post subject: Re: Luthier Lingo
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My favorite luthier lingo term is "zoot".

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 Post subject: Re: Luthier Lingo
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What is "zoot"? I've seen it but never picked up on what it is.


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 Post subject: Re: Luthier Lingo
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Zoot is a term that was made up a few years ago here. It started out as really figured woods. It then kind of went to where any nice wood, but the more figured wood is what is meant. It started with calling Bob Cefalu "Zootman" for all of his really great woods. To top it off he is one of the really good guys in this buisiness or anywhere else.


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 Post subject: Re: Luthier Lingo
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What is "Money"?

I've heard people talk about it but I never seem to get close enough to any to find out what it is. Perhaps that's not a lutherie term after all?


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stan thomison wrote:
It started with calling Bob Cefalu "Zootman" for all of his really great woods. To top it off he is one of the really good guys in this buisiness or anywhere else.


Very well said Stan my friend!!! Uncle Bob aka the Zootman at http://www.rctonewoods.com/ is instrumental (pardon the pun.... :D ) in helping many of us out with superb wood at affordable prices AND the best customer service in the business.

To many of us Uncle Bob is now family - yeah we are dysfunctional but so what..... :D


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 Post subject: Re: Luthier Lingo
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PaulB wrote:
What is "Money"?

I've heard people talk about it but I never seem to get close enough to any to find out what it is. Perhaps that's not a lutherie term after all?


Money. As in how to make $5000 per month building guitars. Take a larger some of "money", say $10,000 and invest it in your guitar business every month. If lucky, at the end of the month, the amount of "money" you have will be less (say $5000) but hopefully not zero. Zero "money" or negative "money" is a really bad thing, something one should always strive to avoid.

Uh, what is flossing the cheeks all about? (dare I ask!)

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I'm thinking that Toulous- Lautrec may have been the first to floss a cheek. laughing6-hehe

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jhowell wrote:
I'm thinking that Toulous- Lautrec may have been the first to floss a cheek. laughing6-hehe


laughing6-hehe laughing6-hehe laughing6-hehe


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 Post subject: Re: Luthier Lingo
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Uh, that was like reading a Far Side comic where I did not get it.

http://www.epartyunlimited.com/fannyfloss.html

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