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Author:  WudWerkr [ Mon Apr 01, 2013 6:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Epiphone 12 String Acoustic
Filling some cracks with ca on the top . Have the back to do as well . Then figure out what someone was thinking when they glued that plywood in at the neck . [headinwall] Friends guitar he saved from a fire at a old house . His son wants to play it .

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Author:  Chris Pile [ Mon Apr 01, 2013 6:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Epiphone 12 String Acoustic
Might check to be sure the neck block is securely glued in.
Those models were notorious for coming loose.
The block was flat, but the back is curved.....
Author:  WudWerkr [ Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:35 pm ]
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Chris Pile wrote:
Might check to be sure the neck block is securely glued in.
Those models were notorious for coming loose.
The block was flat, but the back is curved.....



Thanks Chris , I will check that ! [:Y:]
Author:  Tom West [ Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:54 pm ]
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Big:
Have you considered dumping the hardware in the bridge? Should make guitar more responsive and a wider saddle would be a help when setting up the intonation.
Tom
Author:  WudWerkr [ Thu Apr 18, 2013 8:50 am ]
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Tom West wrote:
Big:
Have you considered dumping the hardware in the bridge? Should make guitar more responsive and a wider saddle would be a help when setting up the intonation.
Tom



I like that Idea ... I will see how things go, I have been so freekin busy lately I havent had any shop time in almost two weeks . Thanks for the idea
Author:  WudWerkr [ Sat May 04, 2013 2:47 pm ]
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Working on the neck . Drilled out the glue that had been put in and realized they didnt take the broke screw out , just covered it with glue [headinwall] gaah Sooooooooo Now its drilled and I will be insetting these threaded inserts

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Author:  SteveSmith [ Sat May 04, 2013 5:32 pm ]
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WudWerkr wrote:
Working on the neck . Drilled out the glue that had been put in and realized they didnt take the broke screw out...


Stuff like that sure can take the fun out of it in a hurry.
Author:  WudWerkr [ Sun May 05, 2013 6:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Epiphone 12 String Acoustic
Ok Dumb Question here probably , But I dont know the answer .

12 string , zero fret epi repair . Is the scale measured from the 0 fret to the 12th or the nut ? 0 fret is almost 3/16 from nut to center of the fret .. If i measure it that way its very close , if I measure it from the nut... well not so much ... Logic says it should be from 0 fret to twelfth fret and twelfth to bridge saddle ..
Author:  michael jennings [ Sun May 05, 2013 10:49 pm ]
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You had it right... scale is from zero fret to saddle on guitars with one. [length of the vibrating string].
M
Author:  WudWerkr [ Fri Jul 19, 2013 5:54 pm ]
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Put a little more time in on the 12 string , I have the neck mounted and all the cracks filled . I repaired the area around the sound hole with a custom pick guard . and buffed it out a bit . The new saddle has to be made and she needs strung up . Jeremy wanted a playable 12 string and thats about what he should have. pfft laughing6-hehe

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Author:  Chris Pile [ Fri Jul 19, 2013 6:54 pm ]
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Soon be playing!
Author:  Barry Daniels [ Thu Aug 01, 2013 12:13 pm ]
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The donut around the soundhole looks weird. Why did you do that?
Author:  Chris Pile [ Thu Aug 01, 2013 2:37 pm ]
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The donut around the soundhole looks weird. Why did you do that?


Go back and look at the pix. Some idiot put a chunk of plywood in there when the guitar started folding up. Epiphones did this quite frequently.
Author:  tbluthier [ Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Epiphone 12 String Acoustic
Speaking only as a person that is often called upon to repair an instrument that was previously repaired, I wouldn't be so quick to call the person that put the plywood in an idiot. Personally, I like the look of the black ring that was put around the sound hole however, I could imagine a future conversation where someone is explaining to another someone how some...idiot put a big black doughnut on a guitar...

Edyted to feeks spellings airer.
Author:  Ryan Mazzocco [ Thu Aug 01, 2013 11:53 pm ]
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I'm fully confident that someone will some day call my repairs the work of an idiot. I know I've fixed other people's repairs, the whole time saying, "what were they thinking?" I've also looked back on a few of my own and said, "what was I thinking?"
Author:  WudWerkr [ Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:34 pm ]
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Barry Daniels wrote:
The donut around the soundhole looks weird. Why did you do that?


Doing this for a friend who really does not want to spend much money, and wants a 12 string for his son to play . Seemed simplier than trying to router out for new rosette .

I am Certain that my work will be called into question some day, heck I call it into question now LOL
Author:  Chris Pile [ Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:42 pm ]
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Doing this for a friend who really does not want to spend much money, and wants a 12 string for his son to play. Seemed simplier than trying to router out for new rosette .

I am Certain that my work will be called into question some day, heck I call it into question now LOL


Been there myself. Sometimes you can only do what the client can pay for.
Author:  WudWerkr [ Wed Aug 14, 2013 4:18 pm ]
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Chris Pile wrote:
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Doing this for a friend who really does not want to spend much money, and wants a 12 string for his son to play. Seemed simplier than trying to router out for new rosette .

I am Certain that my work will be called into question some day, heck I call it into question now LOL


Been there myself. Sometimes you can only do what the client can pay for.



Pay ???? :o You get PAID ?? :? laughing6-hehe
Author:  Michael [ Wed Aug 14, 2013 5:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Epiphone 12 String Acoustic
I think in the early 80's I remember seeing many of this model collapse at the sound hole and I could never come up with a repair that worked. The bridges came up also. Good luck and I hope you have success.
Michael
Author:  Chris Pile [ Wed Aug 14, 2013 6:48 pm ]
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I think in the early 80's I remember seeing many of this model collapse at the sound hole and I could never come up with a repair that worked. The bridges came up also. Good luck and I hope you have success.


I used to take the back off and make all the repairs and mods to make things fit.
Then they would last.
Author:  WudWerkr [ Sun Aug 18, 2013 8:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Epiphone 12 String Acoustic
Strung up the 12 string tonight , will be working on the tuning and some minor saddle work this week "string heights"

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Author:  WudWerkr [ Fri Aug 30, 2013 4:51 pm ]
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Well the Epiphone 12 string is done and has been played a bit . It sounds really good for what is here . The cracks are not extremely visable , and buffed out to a satin finish .

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Author:  Chris Pile [ Fri Aug 30, 2013 6:58 pm ]
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The black "rosette" gives a look like an Applause guitar, but other than that - it looks awesome.
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