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 Post subject: Joe Hill build
PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 6:50 pm 
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Ok, this rank amature is going to try not to screw up on an all Walnut box, with maple neck and braces, and Jatoba fingerboard and bridge. I hope to do the rosette from all the scrap abalone lying around. May the wood working forces be with me…lol. This is my game plan for a dread. Guitar. Now to find a cheap truss rod. I have tons of used machine heads, bone saddles and nuts. Might try the brass saddle on this. Dark woods brass saddle, even with patina it will look good. Pray it does not look like Frankenstein’s Monster...

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 Post subject: Re: Joe Hill build
PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 6:57 pm 
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remember to use LOTTTTSSSAAA Super glue ! :D

Looking forward to seeing your work !

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 Post subject: Re: Joe Hill build
PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 1:38 pm 
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Dat be sumtin me tink I neva live down....lol

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 Post subject: Re: Joe Hill build
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It's okay, Joe.
Reminds me of the time I nearly glued my bare foot to the floor,
after spilling some of that stuff, and forgot, almost glued down.
Keep some acetone close by!
If the acetone is too far away,
start yelling for help.
Worse situation was when I was using hog rings to tie up a fence,
and clinched my finger with the hog ring,
and was looking at my cutters just out of reach,
with nobody around.
I ripped a nice cut in my finger there! OUCH!!!


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 Post subject: Re: Joe Hill build
PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 1:31 am 
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alan stassforth wrote:
It's okay, Joe.
Worse situation was when I was using hog rings to tie up a fence,
and clinched my finger with the hog ring,
and was looking at my cutters just out of reach,
with nobody around.
I ripped a nice cut in my finger there! OUCH!!!


What is truly funny Alan is that I have a horse farm in Central Fla. and can relate to that. I am glad you still have the finger. LMAO, a good portion of my fences are hay string...hog panels and wire ties.
laughing6-hehe (PM me if you want a good story about a hot wire and sob father-in-law.)

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 Post subject: Re: Joe Hill build
PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:31 pm 
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Jatoba fingerboard and bridge


Is jatoba a North American wood ? Does it qualify for a North American build ? Google has me searching and it looks like it is Native to Mexico -

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 Post subject: Re: Joe Hill build
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John A wrote:
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Jatoba fingerboard and bridge


Is jatoba a North American wood ? Does it qualify for a North American build ? Google has me searching and it looks like it is Native to Mexico -


Mexico is in North America

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 Post subject: Re: Joe Hill build
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So then our native wood build could use Cocobolo, Mahogany, Spanish cedar, jatoba, Ipe, so many more exotics in Mexico ! [headinwall]

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 Post subject: Re: Joe Hill build
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Well, Joe, I've pondered an all-walnut box for about thirty years now. I haven't built it yet, but I eventually will. My day dreams take me to an all walnut archtop--not a dread. But that's okay. I will be watching your thread eagerly. I know the common wisdom advises against a walnut top. However, as this is your guitar (and as mine will be mine, whenever I get it done) I think the field for experimentation is open to us. I can't comment on the "exotics". I am not participating in the challenge. Whatever your final wood choices, you press on, man.


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 Post subject: Re: Joe Hill build
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Joe, may the force be with you...always


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 Post subject: Re: Joe Hill build
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John A wrote:
So then our native wood build could use Cocobolo, Mahogany, Spanish cedar, jatoba, Ipe, so many more exotics in Mexico ! [headinwall]



Ok I have listened and thought about this alot . I have compiled a List of the Challenge rules that should be followed to the best of ones ability . AGAIN as I have stated before , Honesty and creativity and FUN prevail. There are No Challenge Police , so we police ourselves . Decisions are to be made on your build with the above spirit in mind. If you have a question , refer to the Spirit of the Challenge . ( see above )

I would say what you have done so far falls into the spirit of the build .

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 Post subject: Re: Joe Hill build
PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:53 pm 
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As a King once said "Thank you, thank you very much" Elvis has left the building.

I would just like to say the force is tinkling on me as I have now singed to sides. I keep telling myself slow down...if not, I am going to be broke. I think I am going to take an oven thermometer and clip it inside the cast iron pipe. This should give me an approximation of my temp give or take 30 degrees. I just touched the wood to the pipe and instant smoke (I thought I was between 450 and 500 degrees) [headinwall] bonk, bonk...Wrong answer. The odds are good that I can sand it out with out compromising the thickness; it is between .118" and .120". I'll have to defer to the pros "how thin is safe for the sides, around .85" to .95" ?"

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 Post subject: Re: Joe Hill build
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Yes. 0.085" to .095" is a good range for sides. You don't need the pipe to be so hot to bend though. About 300 or so should do it. Any higher and you are definitely asking for scorch marks, and at 450-500, you have demanded them!!

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 Post subject: Re: Joe Hill build
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Sometimes ....very seldom, but sometimes I wish my demands were disregarded.

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 Post subject: Re: Joe Hill build
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I haven't been too lucky at bending sides much over 0.095" unless they were an easy bending North American Hardwood like Oak, Maple, or Ash...

So.. Sounds like sanding it out was just what the doctor ordered...

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