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 Post subject: Plaque on Guitar
PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 7:06 pm 
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I've been looking at the Gibson Marcus King 1962 ES-345 today and I noticed the 'Custom Made' plaque below the Tune-O-Matic bridge. It looks like it's affixed with some kind of nails.

Does anyone know more about this practice? Are, or were, plaques a common addition to the body of a guitar? If you've installed one, how did you affix it to the guitar?


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 Post subject: Re: Plaque on Guitar
PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 4:06 am 
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Plaques are not commonly installed on guitars and as a professional Luthier in a busy shop I've never seen one on a guitar in 15 years of doing this.

Nails would not be a good idea depending on the instrument and it's construction. Nor is affixing to the belly region IMO either as g*bson does it, that's a tone sweet spot on a guitar and not to be messed with or encumbered by swag and such.

What is it that you are trying to achieve?

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 Post subject: Re: Plaque on Guitar
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Apparently the ES345, like the 335, is a semi-hollow body. It has a solid section in the middle, so you could nail a plaque there if you absolutely wanted to, as Gibson does on the Marcus King model, although why you'd want to . . . As for affecting the tone, there's not much tone comes out of a semi-hollow body.


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 Post subject: Re: Plaque on Guitar
PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 11:26 am 
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Hesh wrote:
Plaques are not commonly installed on guitars and as a professional Luthier in a busy shop I've never seen one on a guitar in 15 years of doing this.

Nails would not be a good idea depending on the instrument and it's construction. Nor is affixing to the belly region IMO either as g*bson does it, that's a tone sweet spot on a guitar and not to be messed with or encumbered by swag and such.

What is it that you are trying to achieve?


That's really helpful information; thank you! I'll avoid any modification that negatively affects tone.

I was curious about the practice because I'd never seen it before, and was thinking of different ways I could personalize my guitars.



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 Post subject: Re: Plaque on Guitar
PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 11:29 am 
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Dave Higham wrote:
Apparently the ES345, like the 335, is a semi-hollow body. It has a solid section in the middle, so you could nail a plaque there if you absolutely wanted to, as Gibson does on the Marcus King model, although why you'd want to . . . As for affecting the tone, there's not much tone comes out of a semi-hollow body.


That's helpful, thank you! If I was to make such a modification, it would be to a 335. I was generally curious how common this was in guitar-making.


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 Post subject: Re: Plaque on Guitar
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Only seen it once. A J45 with the original finish sanded off (who knows??) came into the shop. Someone had attached an old brass Gibson case tag to the headstock with some small nails presumably to replace the decal that was sanded off. I wouldn’t recommend that one LOL.

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 Post subject: Re: Plaque on Guitar
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jwworth wrote:
Hesh wrote:
Plaques are not commonly installed on guitars and as a professional Luthier in a busy shop I've never seen one on a guitar in 15 years of doing this.

Nails would not be a good idea depending on the instrument and it's construction. Nor is affixing to the belly region IMO either as g*bson does it, that's a tone sweet spot on a guitar and not to be messed with or encumbered by swag and such.

What is it that you are trying to achieve?


That's really helpful information; thank you! I'll avoid any modification that negatively affects tone.

I was curious about the practice because I'd never seen it before, and was thinking of different ways I could personalize my guitars.


One area of personalization that I see is the truss rod cover. On a g*bson Lucile there is a brass cover with engraving and if you like a hardware store of metal objects on a guitar it fits the bill.

Anyway good question and welcome to the form too!

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 Post subject: Re: Plaque on Guitar
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SteveSmith wrote:
Only seen it once. A J45 with the original finish sanded off (who knows??) came into the shop. Someone had attached an old brass Gibson case tag to the headstock with some small nails presumably to replace the decal that was sanded off. I wouldn’t recommend that one LOL.


Sounds pretty gnarly. Thanks for the info!


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 Post subject: Re: Plaque on Guitar
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Hesh wrote:
One area of personalization that I see is the truss rod cover. On a g*bson Lucile there is a brass cover with engraving and if you like a hardware store of metal objects on a guitar it fits the bill.

Anyway good question and welcome to the form too!


"If you like a hardware store of metal objects on a guitar"... I love this description. I'm not trying to overcomplicate anything, or add weight, just like to put a personal touch on guitars I think of as 'keepers'. Thanks very much!


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