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I understand the reasoning for tucking side braces inside the kerfed linings but I like to see a picture of how it should look when it is finished. I use reverse linings generally. Thanks.


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I don't have pictures, but on my last dred., I used carbon fiber mat about .005" thick saturated with thin CA. The kerfing goes right over the top with no special fitting required. On the guitars that I have built using wood for side braces, I carefully align them with the back braces, then taper them to zero under the kerfing. ( not my idea, I stole it from Santa Cruz ). Make them very thin at the exposed edge of the kerfing, and only a small notch is required for tucking.

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I do it like Benedetto shows in his book. It not the cleanest looking method perhaps, but it is simple to do, and that always is good in my book. Just glue a sections of lining over the side brace. The picture hopefully explains.


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With reverse kerfed lining, you might be better off using the bias tape a la Alan Caruth.

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My preferred method is to glue on the cloth strip. I just mask the width of the cloth with masking tape, saturate the tape with glue and put it on, wipe the excess glue off and your done. The masking take keeps everything nice and tiddy. It does the job of comtaining any cracks, looks nice and neat and covers the entire width of the side.

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Todd:

With the second body in, I assume that is mahogany bracing which is just butted against linings? Maybe tape is the way to go.


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[QUOTE=ToddStock] Here's a shot of bias tape and inset spruce bracing on a dread with reversed kerf linings. I use bias tape alone on everything but dreads, where the flat body sections need some extra beef to support .075-.080 sides. The OO and Size 2 in the background get just the tape.[/QUOTE]

Do you [anyone else?] have a source for a coton or cotton/poly blend, or even better linen, bias tape. Al C. and I both discussed this a while back and AFAIK we both are still looking for the blend tape. All the fabric shops now have only poly bias tape and that is much more dificult to glue up. Any hints or sites appreciated. By the bye, I like the idea of the carbon fibre as a tape but again, gluing issues. It is hard to use CA or epoxy and not get a mess on the sides that shows later.

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ALan, I mask tightly on both sides of the tape before applying glue and it makes for a real neat job. CA may give you some trouble if it seeps under but I make sure that it is pressed tight and pull off before the glue dries completely. I have never had to clean it up after I remove the tape.

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Alan,

I found a 50 foot roll of cotton bias tape on eBay for less than $20. Thats enough for a lot of guitars.

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What if you chiseled out one small piece of the lower side of the lining--maybe half the height of the lining--and put the brace in that pocket, would that keep cracks from running? Don't know if I described that very clearly.


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