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Author:  old man [ Sat Apr 14, 2007 1:53 pm ]
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Well, I spent a couple of long days making my rosette for my brother's curly oak OM with bloodwood trim. It's very similar to one posted just a couple of days ago, but I wanted to show it off cause I'm proud of it.

First I joined two ebony headplates and sanded the joined piece down to about 1/8", then routed a groove for a piece of bloodwood.








Next I routed two 1/32" grooves, one on either side of the big groove.








Next, I installed the pieces of bloodwood using black CA, and filled any open spaces with clear CA and ebony dust.









And, although it looks purple in the photo, here is the finished rosette with nothing on it.







Thanks for looking.

Ron

Author:  JohnAbercrombie [ Sat Apr 14, 2007 2:01 pm ]
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Pretty slick and nervy work, Ron.
A mistake at any stage would have messed things up, so you had quite a run going there.
Nice!

John

Author:  Steve Kinnaird [ Sat Apr 14, 2007 2:19 pm ]
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Ron, that looks grand!
Now...let's see it in the top, por favor.

Steve

Author:  WaddyThomson [ Sat Apr 14, 2007 2:32 pm ]
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That's a pretty slick operation there, and a really nice looking rosette. 


Author:  Shane Neifer [ Sat Apr 14, 2007 2:48 pm ]
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That looks awesome Ron! But I thought you would have incorporated a lawnmower into the design some how, maybe you will inlay a sheep into the headstock or something!

Thanks for sharing

Shane

Author:  old man [ Sat Apr 14, 2007 3:03 pm ]
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[QUOTE=Shane Neifer] That looks awesome Ron! But I thought you would have incorporated a lawnmower into the design some how, maybe you will inlay a sheep into the headstock or something!

Thanks for sharing

Shane[/QUOTE]


Thanks, Shane. You know, out of the 1300+ members here now, there's only 8 or 10 who know what the lawnmower is about.    Those were the good old days.

Ron

Author:  Bruce Dickey [ Sat Apr 14, 2007 3:04 pm ]
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wow

Author:  old man [ Sat Apr 14, 2007 3:08 pm ]
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[QUOTE=Steve Kinnaird] Ron, that looks grand!
Now...let's see it in the top, por favor.

Steve[/QUOTE]


Thanks to all. Positive feedback feels so good.

Steve, it'll be a while. I've got two going and the one with priority is my madrose Celtic guitar for my pickin' buddy. I got the top braced on it last week and the back ready to brace, but the humidity was 58% here today, so I worked on the rosette.   I'm still one of those without humidity control in the shop.


Ron

Author:  KiwiCraig [ Sat Apr 14, 2007 11:06 pm ]
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G'day Ron,
            Looks wonderful ! . Very neat and tight work.

I remember the lawnmower saga . Does he get it out more often nowadays?


Cheers Craig

Author:  GregG [ Sat Apr 14, 2007 11:36 pm ]
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Hey that looks great...I've seen one very similar to that one in my shop recently

Greg

Author:  old man [ Sun Apr 15, 2007 12:44 am ]
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[QUOTE=KiwiCraig]
G'day Ron,
              Looks wonderful ! . Very neat and tight work.

I remember the lawnmower saga . Does he get it out more often nowadays?


Cheers Craig[/QUOTE]


Craig, he didn't mow it at all last summer, then had a neighbor come in and cut it all for hay. Seriously.

Ron

Author:  KiwiCraig [ Sun Apr 15, 2007 12:53 am ]
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Ron you better go and get him some sheep .,,, OOPPS,,, shouldn't have suggested that , being a Kiwi and all

Make sure you get the good looking ones

Author:  burbank [ Sun Apr 15, 2007 1:11 am ]
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Wow, Ron,

Nervy, complex process, with beautiful results!

Author:  CarltonM [ Sun Apr 15, 2007 7:38 am ]
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Nice, Ron! Thanks for showing us the process--very informative.

Author:  Sam Price [ Sun Apr 15, 2007 7:44 am ]
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I remember your last rosette, Ron, you sure use some original designs.

REALLY like this one, and the technique used.

Author:  John K [ Sun Apr 15, 2007 8:38 am ]
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Great looking rosette Ron and very clever construction proceedure.

I can see that inner black ring as the inside edge of the sound hole. Any plans for that?

Author:  old man [ Sun Apr 15, 2007 1:41 pm ]
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[QUOTE=John K] Great looking rosette Ron and very clever construction proceedure.

I can see that inner black ring as the inside edge of the sound hole. Any plans for that?[/QUOTE]


Thanks, guys and gals.

No, John, I didn't think of that, but I like the idea. This will only have about 1/16" of spruce showing. It would have been cool to take the ebony to the edge.

Ron

Author:  Steve Kinnaird [ Sun Apr 15, 2007 2:24 pm ]
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[QUOTE=old man]
... but the humidity was 58% here today, so I worked on the rosette.   I'm still one of those without humidity control in the shop.

Ron[/QUOTE]

Ron, you're not smoking enough cigars.
That drops humidity everytime.





Steve

Author:  Anthony Z [ Sun Apr 15, 2007 4:08 pm ]
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Wow is right...very slick and pretty too Ron.

Okay call me dummer than a bag of hammers but what I don't get is how you inlayed the 1/32" piece of bloodwood? Or is that a piece of white purfling?

On John Kinnaird's comment -- couldn't you increase the radius of the soundhole by 1/16"? (Probably another dumb thought).

Author:  Kim [ Sun Apr 15, 2007 9:09 pm ]
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[QUOTE=old man] [QUOTE=KiwiCraig]
G'day Ron,
                Looks wonderful ! . Very neat and tight work.

I remember the lawnmower saga . Does he get it out more often nowadays?


Cheers Craig[/QUOTE]


Craig, he didn't mow it at all last summer, then had a neighbor come in and cut it all for hay. Seriously.

Ron[/QUOTE]

Man after me own heart Lifes too short for mow'in lawns. Great rosette Ron, very slick indeed.

Cheers

Kim

Author:  old man [ Mon Apr 16, 2007 1:20 am ]
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[QUOTE=Steve Kinnaird] [QUOTE=old man]
... but the humidity was 58% here today, so I worked on the rosette.   I'm still one of those without humidity control in the shop.

Ron[/QUOTE]

Ron, you're not smoking enough cigars.
That drops humidity everytime.





Steve[/QUOTE]


Steve, do you have any sort of gauge or graph to determine how many ceegars one needs to use? Like 5 cigars for a 10% drop? I don't have time to experiment.

Ron

Author:  old man [ Mon Apr 16, 2007 1:27 am ]
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[QUOTE=Anthony Z] Wow is right...very slick and pretty too Ron.

Okay call me dummer than a bag of hammers but what I don't get is how you inlayed the 1/32" piece of bloodwood? Or is that a piece of white purfling?

On John Kinnaird's comment -- couldn't you increase the radius of the soundhole by 1/16"? (Probably another dumb thought).[/QUOTE]


Anthony, that is 1/32" bloodwood. I actually made it by taking a piece of black/bloodwood/black purfling and sanded off the black from either side on the thickness sander. After cutting the 1/32" groove, I just placed the bloodwood strip in the groove and hit it with CA.


It would be possible to increase the soundhole size. I'll think about that as I haven't cut the soundhole yet.


Ron

Author:  Michael Dale Payne [ Mon Apr 16, 2007 1:42 am ]
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Sweet Ron

Author:  Steve Kinnaird [ Mon Apr 16, 2007 1:46 am ]
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Ron, it all depends on the cubic volume of your shop, and the particular day in question.
Simple rule of tumb--puff till it drops.
Or maybe that was till YOU drop. Whichever comes first?

Steve

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