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PostPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2021 1:52 pm 
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Take a look at this guitar because it’s about to go in the garbage don’t ask me why it doesn’t matter it ain’t right oh well that’s theLuthier game -sometimes it’s just not fun
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2021 2:23 pm 
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Send it to me for disposal.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2021 2:40 pm 
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That looks like Black Locust for the back and sides.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2021 3:09 pm 
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I can’t help it…. Why?


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2021 3:57 pm 
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DanKirkland wrote:
That looks like Black Locust for the back and sides.

No, it's flamed red birch.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2021 3:59 pm 
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Glen H wrote:
I can’t help it…. Why?

There is an area that's too thin on the top....
I didn't realize it until now.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2021 4:01 pm 
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Chris Pile wrote:
Send it to me for disposal.

I need the satisfaction of sawing it in half on the bandsaw....


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2021 4:07 pm 
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How thin is "too thin"?


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Brad Goodman wrote:
Chris Pile wrote:
Send it to me for disposal.

I need the satisfaction of sawing it in half on the bandsaw....

You couldn't even donate ti to a veteran's society or a youth project?
Must be pretty darn bad...

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2021 4:14 pm 
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wbergman wrote:
How thin is "too thin"?


Hard to put into words, but with moderate thumb pressure I could (and did) crack the top.



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2021 4:16 pm 
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Colin North wrote:
Brad Goodman wrote:
Chris Pile wrote:
Send it to me for disposal.

I need the satisfaction of sawing it in half on the bandsaw....

You couldn't even donate ti to a veteran's society or a youth project?
Must be pretty darn bad...



It's actually not "that bad" yet it is bad enough for me not to put my name on it.

I wouldn't donate it for the same reason I am junking the guitar-my reputation.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2021 4:27 pm 
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Thinking back on it this guitar was jinxed

I had a problem with the head and I fixed it.

Then the router bit slipped when I was doing the binding and I fixed it.

Both those fixes didn't affect the overall structural longevity of the instrument, but this one did.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2021 4:57 pm 
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Sorry to hear about that, I’ve been there and had guitars suffer a “career ending injury” very late in the build process and there few things more frustrating. I keep one of these hanging around the shop to beat up as a test mule for new routing jigs or finish experiments.

Bandsawing them in half would feel amazing although I’d probably opt for a baseball bat for max enjoyment.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2021 5:04 pm 
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That's some pretty birch and a pretty guitar. Sorry it went like it did--I have a few casualties hanging on my shop wall. I understand though.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2021 5:26 pm 
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Why not retop it?


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2021 5:33 pm 
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Man I hate that. Sorry Brad


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2021 5:56 pm 
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Give it the Office Space printer treatment:

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2021 6:36 pm 
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It's easy to take out our frustrations for our failings on the guitar - better to do that than beating the wife or kicking the dog, but still it's not the guitars fault. I have a guitar that has a thin spot in the top from overzealous perimeter (sanding) tuning. It sounds quite good. I would never sell it that way but it sounds too nice to bandsaw, and besides, retopping would be a better option.
I would suggest - glue the crack, slap a bridge on it, some cheap tuners, and string it up. You might learn something from it.
If your name is on it, that can be removed and it will look like all the other nameless birch bodied catalog guitars from the 20's.
In the "moment" we might take some satisfaction from the object's destruction, but we don't really learn anything from that.



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2021 6:42 pm 
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I've fixed far worse.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2021 10:00 pm 
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It would make a lovely birdhouse if nothing else.

What’s the downside to re-topping?

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2021 10:55 pm 
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These days I retop a good number of guitars at my shop. If you really want to get rid of it, I'll make a new top for it. 100% serious


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Don't destroy it, please. I consider all guitars - no matter how trashed, to be raw materials at their most basic. Take it apart and use the wood for something else. A guitar back eventually becomes a mandolin back, a spruce top could be used as patching material, pull the fingerboard and use it on something else. Save the hardware, the bridge, and so on for use elsewhere. It's not worthy of destruction, because it's not the guitars fault.

Save the wood and let it live as something else, please.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 2:49 am 
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 8:15 am 
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Chris Pile wrote:
Don't destroy it, please. I consider all guitars - no matter how trashed, to be raw materials at their most basic. Take it apart and use the wood for something else. A guitar back eventually becomes a mandolin back, a spruce top could be used as patching material, pull the fingerboard and use it on something else. Save the hardware, the bridge, and so on for use elsewhere. It's not worthy of destruction, because it's not the guitars fault.

Save the wood and let it live as something else, please.


I second this opinion.

I also end up re-topping more guitars these days too. Shizz happens but you don't need to take the whole guitar to the shooting range.


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I lit one on fire once (and posted pics of it here too, the pics are long gone though). It felt great at the time to absolve myself of that frustration, but I often wish I had kept it as a personal guitar.

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