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 Post subject: Thuya burl
PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:55 pm 
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Anyone have experience using thuya burl for an acoustic bridge or fretboard? I’ve got a couple of really nice, appropriately sized chunks that I’m contemplating combining with quilted mahogany and engelmann spruce. I think it’d look fab!


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 Post subject: Re: Thuya burl
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I've never even heard of it, but it sure looks nice.

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 Post subject: Re: Thuya burl
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Must admit I'd be cautious about using any burl for a bridge. Grain all over the place/voids and quite highly stressed.

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 Post subject: Re: Thuya burl
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I agree with Colin, I would hesitate to use burl for a bridge- much of the gluing surface would be end grain and the wood itself doesn't hold together that well in many cases.
For a fretboard it might work O.K., but you may have to glue in the frets and you may get uneven wear on the playing surface. I have never used it for these applications, so it is only speculation on my part.


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 Post subject: Re: Thuya burl
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I bought some out of curiosity to use as tool handles/knife scales/grips, etc. After working some, it just didn't seem to have the integrity and toughness I was looking for. I think it is beautiful wood, smells great and would be good for ornamental purposes but I'd be hesitant to use it where strength and durability is important.

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 Post subject: Re: Thuya burl
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Colin, Clay, Brian...Thanks for your feedback. All these are the kinds of things that I was thinking about as well. It’s such a pretty wood. Guess I was hoping people would respond, “Oh yeah, I use it for that all the time with no issues at all”. Alas, that’s not happening. I’ll look for opportunities to use it in a decorative manner. Inlays, fretboard binding, rosette, etc.

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 Post subject: Re: Thuya burl
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You could try hardening the surface with CA. That might make it work for a fingerboard


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 Post subject: Re: Thuya burl
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I presume you mean burl-figured wood from “Thuja”, either western redcedar or eastern white cedar. Pretty low density and will probably move like crazy. I’d happily stabilize with CA and use for decorative purposes, e.g., rosettes, tie blocks, head plates, but I wouldn’t dream of using it for fingerboard or bridges.


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 Post subject: Re: Thuya burl
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I presume you mean burl-figured wood from “Thuja”, either western redcedar or eastern white cedar. Pretty low density and will probably move like crazy. I’d happily stabilize with CA and use for decorative purposes, e.g., rosettes, tie blocks, head plates, but I wouldn’t dream of using it for fingerboard or bridges.


Don't think so -

https://www.wood-database.com/thuya/

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 Post subject: Re: Thuya burl
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Colin North wrote:
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I presume you mean burl-figured wood from “Thuja”, either western redcedar or eastern white cedar. Pretty low density and will probably move like crazy. I’d happily stabilize with CA and use for decorative purposes, e.g., rosettes, tie blocks, head plates, but I wouldn’t dream of using it for fingerboard or bridges.


Don't think so -

https://www.wood-database.com/thuya/

Yes Colin. That’s it.

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 Post subject: Re: Thuya burl
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Colin North wrote:
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I presume you mean burl-figured wood from “Thuja”, either western redcedar or eastern white cedar. Pretty low density and will probably move like crazy. I’d happily stabilize with CA and use for decorative purposes, e.g., rosettes, tie blocks, head plates, but I wouldn’t dream of using it for fingerboard or bridges.


Don't think so -

https://www.wood-database.com/thuya/

Yep, I had both feet “in the potato” on the species, but I still wouldn’t use Thuya, or any other burl, for bridges or fingerboards, where dimensional stability is important.


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