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Author:  Colin North [ Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Coloured pencil for marking dark woods

Head's up if you're interested.
Tried a new one, mechanical pencil, not so thick at 0.9mm, and not so easy to break (ceramic lead - ?)
Someone recommended this on the O'Brian forum.
The pic is just my normal signature scribbled fast on EIR.
Hands down better than anything else I've tried.
https://www.amazon.com/Sewline-Fabric-Ceramic-Quantity-Refills/dp/B017WXXSF6/ref=pd_ybh_a_7?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=NFY6162MQ29CVE0YVTG6

Author:  SteveSmith [ Fri Jan 03, 2020 2:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Coloured pencil for marking dark woods

Thanks Colin, been looking for something like that.

Author:  Pegasusguitars [ Fri Jan 03, 2020 5:48 pm ]
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Colin, I mostly use white pencil for tracing around plexiglas templates, which often have kind of rough edges here and there. Think this lead would stand up to that? Always interested in better things. Thanks, Bob

Author:  Colin North [ Fri Jan 03, 2020 6:30 pm ]
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Pegasusguitars wrote:
Colin, I mostly use white pencil for tracing around plexiglas templates, which often have kind of rough edges here and there. Think this lead would stand up to that? Always interested in better things. Thanks, Bob

Seems to hold up fairly well, comparable almost to a lead pencil.
Of course, being a mechanical pencil, if held at a suitable angle the lead won't touch the plexiglass. It would be the metal tube the lead sits in.

Author:  Trevor Gore [ Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:39 pm ]
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Thanks, Colin. Just been in town and got some of these. Works fine on sanded EIR, a lot less well on fine-planed or very fine sanded wood, especially if that wood is waxy or oily, in which case standard 2B polymer leads were more visible. So an improvement in some, but not all, situations.

Author:  Tim Mullin [ Sat Jan 04, 2020 2:45 am ]
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I’ve been using this 0.7 mm yellow lead for last few years in a standard mechanical pencil:
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B016FYEQ5E/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

As strong or stronger than a 2B lead, but will not stand up to rough surfaces or use. Has worked well on fine-sanded ebony and IRW, marking out bridges, fingerboards, headplates, binding and the like.

I’d like to try this ceramic lead though.


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Author:  Colin North [ Sat Jan 04, 2020 6:25 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Coloured pencil for marking dark woods

In view of Trevor's post and in the interest of us all, signed various woods to try them out.

Signature in the (yellow) mechanical pencil mentioned, with another in HB pencil alongside.

Not the best pic, tried to catch the HB pencil marks with the lighting.

When I don't catch the light on the pencil lines are almost invisible on most of the woods.

Woods sanded except Zircote (sawn), not planed.

Top to bottom:-
ABW
BRW
Ebony (Gabon)
Honduran RW
Zircote
Wenge
Bubinga

Author:  Joe Beaver [ Sat Jan 04, 2020 11:42 am ]
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Very nicely done Colin. I ordered one . Should be a big improvement!

Author:  Colin North [ Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:19 pm ]
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Joe Beaver wrote:
Very nicely done Colin. I ordered one . Should be a big improvement!

Hope you like it!

Author:  Trevor Gore [ Sat Jan 04, 2020 6:35 pm ]
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Thanks again, Colin. I used white not yellow, which seems to give you much better results than I was getting. But sanded surfaces gave better results, for sure. I'll check out the yellow next time I'm in town.

Author:  Dave m2 [ Sun Jan 05, 2020 11:11 am ]
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Good timing Colin. I have just run out of my box of white pencils, which were too soft anyway, and was about to start looking for a better alternative.
Thanks Dave

Author:  Joe Beaver [ Sun Jan 05, 2020 12:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Coloured pencil for marking dark woods

One quick note, the pencil that Colin has linked comes with white lead. I ordered a pack of yellow with it.
Yellow FAB50008,

Author:  Colin North [ Sun Jan 05, 2020 1:04 pm ]
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Sorry 'bout that!

Author:  Joe Beaver [ Sun Jan 05, 2020 1:54 pm ]
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No problem. Most likely white will come in handy

Author:  Trevor Gore [ Thu Jan 09, 2020 10:36 pm ]
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Trevor Gore wrote:
Thanks again, Colin. I used white not yellow, which seems to give you much better results than I was getting. But sanded surfaces gave better results, for sure. I'll check out the yellow next time I'm in town.

Was in town earlier. The shop owner thought she was out of stock, but couldn't remember ever seeing yellow. After further investigation it turns out yellow is not available in Aus. Only white, green, pink and black. Go figure! :roll:

Author:  meddlingfool [ Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:36 am ]
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Go pink!

Author:  Colin North [ Fri Jan 10, 2020 5:01 am ]
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Trevor Gore wrote:
Trevor Gore wrote:
Thanks again, Colin. I used white not yellow, which seems to give you much better results than I was getting. But sanded surfaces gave better results, for sure. I'll check out the yellow next time I'm in town.

Was in town earlier. The shop owner thought she was out of stock, but couldn't remember ever seeing yellow. After further investigation it turns out yellow is not available in Aus. Only white, green, pink and black. Go figure! :roll:


Go figure, especially as "Launched in 2008, Sewline are an Australian company"

Author:  Pmaj7 [ Fri Jan 10, 2020 2:57 pm ]
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I think mine said it was coming from Japan...

Pat

Author:  Terence Kennedy [ Fri Jan 10, 2020 3:24 pm ]
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Mine just came. It's great, best white pencil ever. Thanks!

Author:  Colin North [ Fri Jan 10, 2020 3:41 pm ]
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Glad you like it.
I just tried white and compared it to yellow, not that much different.

Author:  Colin North [ Fri Jan 10, 2020 4:36 pm ]
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Pmaj7 wrote:
I think mine said it was coming from Japan...

Pat

Mine says made in Japan, site I looked at said it was an Australian company - ?

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