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 Post subject: Hemlock
PostPosted: Mon Dec 30, 2019 3:02 pm 
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Anyone use hemlock for necks ?

Found a source for nicely quartered hemlock in 2" and 4" thickness. Came home with a 2x6 blank 4' long for a very reasonable price.

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 Post subject: Re: Hemlock
PostPosted: Mon Dec 30, 2019 4:30 pm 
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I can't say anything about it's use but it would be great if it could be used for something now that all the trees are dead :(

It's been used for guitar tops before so it might be analogous to using spruce for a neck.


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 Post subject: Re: Hemlock
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not a good neck material very splintery

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 Post subject: Re: Hemlock
PostPosted: Mon Dec 30, 2019 9:03 pm 
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bluescreek wrote:
not a good neck material very splintery



So match it with a Wenge body ?


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 Post subject: Re: Hemlock
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Lots of living hemlock trees in my neck of the woods, so they aren't all dead.

Unfortunately the wood isn't much good IMO, basically because it splits so easily.

I've used it for outbuilding construction and such but only when economy is of the essence.

I wouldn't consider it an instrument grade wood but I'd bet it has been used for that successfully somewhere along the line.


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 Post subject: Re: Hemlock
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Hemlock for a neck? might as well pick a nice 2X4 at home depot IMHO.

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 Post subject: Re: Hemlock
PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2019 11:24 am 
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Message received, good thing it was not expensive.

I will find another use for this plank.

Thank you.


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 Post subject: Re: Hemlock
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I have used it a quite a bit in cabinetry and a lot of firewood. It varies from tree to tree and region it grows. I have lumber in my shop and chunks in the woodpile that would absolutely make a good neck wood. As would old growth Fir. It's very stable and have never found it overly splintery. Go for it if the density is good! It varies a lot.


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 Post subject: Re: Hemlock
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As Danny says, there are three types of Hemlock, Mountain, Eastern, and Western. The one that splinters is Eastern. If yours is Mountain or Western (Westen is by far the most commercial of the bunch) you should be able to use it for a neck, although it is considerably softer than Mahogany

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 Post subject: Re: Hemlock
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Density is on the high side, which is why I got it. No scale in the shop, but compared to other planks, I would say denser than the Honduran I have, about the same as sapele, and less dense than walnut or white oak.

Comes from a West coast Sawyer. Found it while visiting family in the la area.


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 Post subject: Re: Hemlock
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I used to make waterbed frames from kd 2x10 western hemlock back in the '70s. Flatsawn it had interesting grain patterns. Finished them with Watco black walnut. There's still some boards up in the rack. I'll have to take them down and look at them again with a new eye.


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 Post subject: Re: Hemlock
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The Tongass National Forest is about 60% Western Hemlock. But also grows the finest old growth sitka spruce in the world. Alaska Specialty woods has done some research on the properties pf WH, mainly because we had found some logs that made one wonder about use for a soundboard. It is quite surprizing what the properties of this specie is. Strength... the stuff is strong. Density, not too much different than most of the sitka. Anyway, most western hemlock is not suitable for soundboards because the specie is shade tolerant and is able to survive with very little sun. It grows under a canopy of shade[unlike sitka] Anyway WH often has un-sightly dark pitch sipes scattered though out the log. And since appearance is so important so sellable guitars it won’t work to produce in large quantity. 80% would get thrown away for looks. Al Carruth did some testing with some WH top sets he purchased from us at an ASIA show about 20 yrs ago, and reported that it hade better tonal properties than the Sitka he had at the time[ which was not from us At ASW.] Also according to the USFS wood lab in Wisconsin, WH is 12% stronger than sitka. But it does not have the elasticity. We have WH tops in our online store.



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 Post subject: Re: Hemlock
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Since it is nicely quartered you could saw it up for parlor guitar or dulcimer tops. Waste not, want not.


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 Post subject: Re: Hemlock
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You could build a squareneck with it.
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 Post subject: Re: Hemlock
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I remember that WH. It was pretty dense, and would work well for a smaller guitar, where the density is not so much of an issue, or for one where 'headroom' is important. Of course, a sample of only two is not necessarily 'representative', but it's a start.


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