Larson purfling...
Stella...
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| Author: | sdsollod [ Mon Sep 10, 2018 9:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | colored purfling? |
Has anyone used colored purfling? I'd love to see some examples... |
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| Author: | doncaparker [ Mon Sep 10, 2018 11:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: colored purfling? |
Steve-- See this thread: viewtopic.php?f=10101&t=46253&hilit=herringbone |
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| Author: | Glenn LaSalle [ Mon Sep 10, 2018 11:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: colored purfling? |
I have used a thin .020" red in my purfling design: Glenn Attachment: IMG_0578.jpg Attachment: IMG_0776.jpg
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| Author: | Haans [ Mon Sep 10, 2018 1:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: colored purfling? |
Larson purfling... Stella...
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| Author: | banjopicks [ Mon Sep 10, 2018 2:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: colored purfling? |
Dang, that's nice stuff. Anyone have a link that shows how to make these? |
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| Author: | Haans [ Mon Sep 10, 2018 2:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: colored purfling? |
https://www.brentrup.com/page3/page3.html I later bought a Proxxon mini table saw and the cut strips were much better. You can see the difference in the third photo. I had the "ladder strips" custom made by Gurian. Stella purfling was bought from LMI. |
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| Author: | Ruby50 [ Mon Sep 10, 2018 6:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: colored purfling? |
Here is my take on the gold glitter that Gibson used in the thirties. The binding and rosette boundaries are Mother-Of-Toilet-Seat |
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| Author: | Glen H [ Mon Sep 10, 2018 7:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: colored purfling? |
Some incredible instruments in this thread! Thanks |
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| Author: | DannyV [ Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: colored purfling? |
Attachment: rsz_img_8224.jpg This is a parlour. I just sprayed it's big brother yesterday that used the other half of the neck blank. I'll be doing some other colours in the future! |
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| Author: | sdsollod [ Tue Sep 11, 2018 4:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: colored purfling? |
Danny, I love that! Could we see more of it? |
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| Author: | ernie [ Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: colored purfling? |
Hi Haans , I/m still using my ryobi 9 in BS with the 3/8in 6 tpi blade to cut binding and purfling strips. I looked at the Proxxon but was not sure if it was worth the extra $$ to use it as a dedicated binding and purfling strip cutter . I also have a large 36 in drumsander and 2 drill press thickness sanders. My question, is it worth purchasing in your opinion . ???/ thank you |
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| Author: | doncaparker [ Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: colored purfling? |
Haans should answer for Haans, but I'll share my opinion. I have a regular sized, cast iron top table saw (a Rigid hybrid saw). For a short while, I also owned a Proxxon mini table saw. After experiments, I felt I was getting significantly smoother cuts from the regular sized table saw, assuming I used a very thin kerf blade and a zero clearance insert. I felt that the Proxxon did not have as much oomph and bogged down a bit on the thicker pieces. Plus, I could adjust the full sized saw with more precision. So, I sold the Proxxon. I guess my point is that the Proxxon would do fine, but if you already own a full sized table saw, I think you can tweak it to do comparable work and not buy the Proxxon. It might even do a better job than the Proxxon (which is what I experienced). The blade I like best for this sort of cutting is the Freud 7 1/4" Diablo with the 1/16" kerf. I can get a lot of guitar wood cut with that blade. I also keep a Diablo 10" blade (1/8" kerf) on hand for the more demanding cuts. |
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| Author: | Haans [ Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: colored purfling? |
Ernie, depends on how much purfling, ablam, binding, etc. you do. I used a 1/4 x 14tpi blade on my bandsaw and photo 3 shows what I got out of it. I also found the Proxxon on ebay, and got it for a lot less than new. Then too, you have to buy the zero clearance inserts and the super fine saw blade, and modify the fence and miter as shown. As I made a lot of those purflings, I found it worthwhile. As Don says, it has no power, but you don't need any for this...  For me, it was pretty much a single use tool. It's all about what works for you... |
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| Author: | meddlingfool [ Wed Sep 12, 2018 5:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: colored purfling? |
I use my tablesaw with the fret slotting blade and a zero clearance insert... |
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| Author: | doncaparker [ Wed Sep 12, 2018 5:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: colored purfling? |
I now have a StewMac fret slot blade, and some extra zero clearance inserts, so I plan to get it set up for both fretboard slotting and cutting the thinnest veneers. For anything thicker than a few layers of veneer, I will stick with the smaller Freud Diablo. There’s not all that much cutting depth with the fret slot blade. |
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| Author: | ernie [ Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: colored purfling? |
Hi , Thanks don and haans for the detailed photos and information, and the others it is much appreciated and yes I do like to make my own original purflings and bindings. I feel that they add an artistic touch , particularly when using some pretty bland woods like Maple. My current faves are making different sizes of rope binding and wheat /herringbone motifs.Currently I have a CL older rockwell 80/s 10 in basic saw , Used primarily for ripping, rough stock , it sucks and leaves a rough cut even with the thin kerf diablo blade and the insert is stamped metal , So a O clearance insert is hard to retrofit.. Plus the fence is a total PITA not suitable for purflings and bindings. My older 31 yr old Union 3 hp taiwanese saw was used a few times with a O insert . jewellers 4in LV fret blade and a long clamping small clamp fence , I didn/t appreciate long thin pieces of wood flying all over the shop when ripped. I also have a clone of the rikon 10 in a 10 in craftsman BS it does not have a O insert, the fence sucks, and the blade is way too coarse with a 3 tpi. blade I/ve had the best luck with my underpowered 22 yr old ryobi O insert,and plywood overlay and uber thin .014 kerf 3/8in 6 tpi blade , and a DIY plywood fence, even then , If I feed it too quickly the long cuts are fairly uneven, and require much additional sanding with 80 grit on the thickness sander and a scraping before being finally glued up into strips. I like your idea Haans , I have seen proxxons for sale cheap on e - vil bay , and sometimes you can find an older small cast iron TS that can be retrofitted too just be set up for doing binding and purfling work . I use a lot of different exotics for my bindings , so this might be the way to go . In vancouver 40 yrs ago I had a small cast iron 8 in beaver TS from the 50/s it had a small usa rockwell probably a homehandyman type of table saw ???? Thank you everyone! |
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| Author: | Clay S. [ Thu Sep 13, 2018 11:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: colored purfling? |
Freud makes a 7 1/4 inch diablo blade with 60 teeth now. Binding and purflings might be a good excuse to buy one (too many teeth for cutting thick stuff). It's not that hard to make a simple arbor saw if you forgo the tilting option and hinge one end of the bed to set the blade height. That is how I made a fret slotting saw using an old saw motor and scraps of wood and corian. I cut the slot with the same blade as I use for fret slots so it is essentially a "zero clearance insert". For ripping I clamp a straight edge to the top. Crude, but cheap and it works. |
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| Author: | DannyV [ Thu Sep 13, 2018 11:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: colored purfling? |
Attachment: rsz_img_8218.jpg Attachment: rsz_img_8203.jpg Attachment: rsz_img_8230.jpg There you go Steve. Doing your own layups gives you the ability to tie everything together in a unique way. Here's a black/rosewood/black heavy layup with a very lovely set of Oregon Myrtle. Attachment: rsz_img_8335.jpg
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