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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 8:43 pm 
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Does anyone have any experience with Laguna jointers? There are literally 2 reviews online for the 6" version. Woodcraft ordered it for me today so it's a little late but I'm hoping that someone can give me a little re-assurance here. I did do a bit of research comparing the Laguna, Jet, Powermatic and Grizzly 6" jointers and Laguna got the best score in terms of the specs that I was interested in. However, I have heard some say that there's been a recent decline in the quality of Laguna tools of late and with their no return policy I'm a little worried about getting hosed. I will say that I recently ordered a Laguna dust collector that I've been really happy with so far.

Secondly- it's pretty tough to judge the quality of rasp/file handles without touching them and I hate buying things twice, waiting for shipping twice etc. Any recommendations on a quality rasp/file handle? I need a couple and I'd like to get it right the first time.


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I have a used Laguna with sheartec cutters I bought on Craigslist and it's great.

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MY chiu ting jointer is over 35 yrs old , need an upgrade ? what are sheartec cutters ??? thanks


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I really like the Lie-Nielsen handles that come on their Auriou rasps. They have a similar feel to the handles on Blue Spruce chisels. Lie-Nielsen sells them separately in different sizes, but I can't say whether they will fit your particular rasps. Take a look:

https://www.lie-nielsen.com/product/file-rasp-handles-lie-nielsen-rasp-handles-

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MY chiu ting jointer is over 35 yrs old , need an upgrade ? what are sheartec cutters ??? thanks


It's their take on the Shellix style cutterhead with square shaped, canted carbide steel mounted on a spiral shaped cutterhead. Compared to a 3 knife cutterhead it's less likely to tear out, especially figured woods just like a Shellix cutterhead.


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ernie wrote:
MY chiu ting jointer is over 35 yrs old , need an upgrade ? what are sheartec cutters ??? thanks


It's their take on the Shellix style cutterhead with square shaped, canted carbide steel mounted on a spiral shaped cutterhead. Compared to a 3 knife cutterhead it's less likely to tear out, especially figured woods just like a Shellix cutterhead.


Similar to shellix with slight differences, both are nice. This has built in casters and and another 1/2 HP compared to the other 6" models. A couple other reasons too but I doubt anyone cares lol.

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For those who have one , how does the lagoonie compare with the griz ?? I think todd stock has one thanks


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For those who have one , how does the lagoonie compare with the griz ?? I think todd stock has one thanks


My Laguna will be here next week so I can let you know then. The Grizzly has a nice price but if I went that route I'd get it with the 3 knives and upgrade to a Shellix cutterhead. Grizz doesn't cant their cutterheads on an angle in their helical cutterhead model which is a little less insurance against tear-out. I've used several Grizzly's and own a Grizz bandsaw, just decided to go with laguna for the jointer after a lot of spec reading and comparisons.



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I got the Grizz benchtop with spiral cutterhead. Blades were 1mm higher than the outfeed table with no provision that I could find (or their tech) to adjust it. The cutterhead is has many more cutters than the Rikon which I liked. Sent it back and adjusted my old ShopSmith for now.



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I have a 12" Laguna. It's awesome. I did have a 6" Laguna briefly before upgrading to the 12", and it was great also. Shear Tec II is a very good blade system.



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Kelby can you please tell us why you like the 12in lagoonie, and what kind of difference it makes to the work thanks


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Sure, Ernie.
1. I've had no chipout. Ever. Even in the most figured woods. The strategy of cutting on the shear angle works.
2. Hardly any noise. Three-blade jointers scream when face jointing. This is very quite.
3. The blades last forever. When you get a nick in straight-blade jointers, you have to sharpen/replace the whole blade, and setting them all to the same length is a hassle. With a ShearTec (and I'm sure with any spiral cutterhead) I just turn the affected blades 90 degrees, and the built in stops make that super simple. When I get another nick, in all likelihood it will be in another spot on the cutterhead, so I'm turning a different set of blades. And since you can turn each blade 4 times, a blade set lasts a lifetime.
4. Related to 3, the shearing action and the carbide blades mean everything stays sharp forever. I had to rotate a line of blades due to a nick once, but I've never had to rotate due to dullness.

I haven't used the other spiral systems like the Byrd, but I suspect they are very similar. Upgrading my planer and jointer to spiral systems (ShearTec for both for me) was a huge improvement in my shop.



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Thanks for the detailed explanation kirby. my rexon 16 in planer is 32 yrs old leaks oil like a sieve, but is extremely heavy duty, needs a gasket replacement. I will have to check laguna/s specs / The 12 in jointer and the sheartec system . I also have a fondness for wood that has some figure


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I concur, the Laguna cuts figured wood like butter.

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Sure, Ernie.
1. I've had no chipout. Ever. Even in the most figured woods. The strategy of cutting on the shear angle works.
2. Hardly any noise. Three-blade jointers scream when face jointing. This is very quite.
3. The blades last forever. When you get a nick in straight-blade jointers, you have to sharpen/replace the whole blade, and setting them all to the same length is a hassle. With a ShearTec (and I'm sure with any spiral cutterhead) I just turn the affected blades 90 degrees, and the built in stops make that super simple. When I get another nick, in all likelihood it will be in another spot on the cutterhead, so I'm turning a different set of blades. And since you can turn each blade 4 times, a blade set lasts a lifetime.
4. Related to 3, the shearing action and the carbide blades mean everything stays sharp forever. I had to rotate a line of blades due to a nick once, but I've never had to rotate due to dullness.

I haven't used the other spiral systems like the Byrd, but I suspect they are very similar. Upgrading my planer and jointer to spiral systems (ShearTec for both for me) was a huge improvement in my shop.


I'm glad you are happy with your purchases. You should leave a review on the Woodcraft website. There is one 1 star review and one 5 star review. I was hoping to read something more like your post. Some of the other things that led me to the Laguna over the Powermatic, Jet and Grizz were:
- it's the heaviest @ 388 lbs.
-most cutter heads with 42 (Jet has the fewest with 27)
-extra 1/2 HP over the others
-56" bed (only Powermatic is longer at 66")
-built in casters

I hope I'm as happy with my purchase as you are with yours.



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We have a Grizzly G9860ZX - 12" Z Series Jointer w/ Spiral Cutterhead. It's been in use for almost 9 years and I love it. Plenty of power and super smooth cut. We've rotated the blades that have nicked over the years. No complaints.

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I just left a review on Woodcraft of the 12" version (or at least I tried to). That was a good suggestion.

I hope your machine works out as well as mine has.



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