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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 4:32 am 
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Very good video for Goodall guitars - every time I see one of these videos I learn something new. Fascinating approach.
For some reason I can't get the forum Youtube tags to work. If any of you can, please do!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gS78naD ... e=youtu.be

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 12:00 pm 
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Thanks Nigel, I love these too!


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 12:06 pm 
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nice video.

interesting take-a-ways:

-tenon-less neck joint. what about shift or finish burrowing?
-perimeter thinning of the top -closed box voicing.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 12:17 pm 
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This and the video on Michael Greenfield are both excellent!

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 12:21 pm 
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Thanks. It is amazing how we all gravitate to similar techniques for some things and unique for others.

You always learn something from a shop tour.

Goodalls are great guitars. I actually made some very positive changes in my instruments based on examining a Goodall that was owned by a great MN player.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 12:37 pm 
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arie wrote:
nice video.

interesting take-a-ways:

-tenon-less neck joint. what about shift or finish burrowing?
-perimeter thinning of the top -closed box voicing.


Haven't posted here in a long time and am expanding/cleaning/reorganizing my shop with the hopes of building again and found this video to be very inspiring. Noticed those 2 things as well Arie. Also noticed what seemed like pretty thick tops to start the voicing process?? Could be wrong about that. Again very nice video, thanks for posting that!!

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 2:11 pm 
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Terence Kennedy wrote:
Thanks. It is amazing how we all gravitate to similar techniques for some things and unique for others.

You always learn something from a shop tour.

Goodalls are great guitars. I actually made some very positive changes in my instruments based on examining a Goodall that was owned by a great MN player.


i've had the chance to play and examine about 6~7 or so Goodalls and have also absorbed a fair amount into my stuff as well. specifically on the back plate.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:23 pm 
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Great video!

Interesting the way he uses a router jig to shape the braces after they're glued to the top.
Also the way they feather the end of the braces with that special machine.

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Note the use of CA glue to “harden” the spruce top before cutting the channels for the rosette — an idea I’ve thought of but never tried, for fear of the dreaded CA yellow stain. Wonder what brand/formula they use?


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Tim Mullin wrote:
Note the use of CA glue to “harden” the spruce top before cutting the channels for the rosette — an idea I’ve thought of but never tried, for fear of the dreaded CA yellow stain. Wonder what brand/formula they use?


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Yeah, I might give that a go too. I think as long as it doesn't hit the end-grain it would be okay. Or maybe they're using medium, thick, or gel?


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:55 pm 
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Tim Mullin wrote:
Note the use of CA glue to “harden” the spruce top before cutting the channels for the rosette — an idea I’ve thought of but never tried, for fear of the dreaded CA yellow stain. Wonder what brand/formula they use?


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Also thought that was considered a no-no. Would Shellac serve the same purpose?

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I/ve used thin super glue. but prefer 2 coats of vy thin shellac, especially on WRC


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The dreaded yellow stain comes from CA wicking into the endgrain of an unsealed rosette channel. It sands off fine from above once it's dry.


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Staining must be brand dependent (or in conjunction with particular pieces of wood). I've had CA stain flat grain spruce and also stain maple purfling yellow, to where I didn't want to sand any further. Test, test, test or just avoid using it, which is what I decided to do.

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Hmm, that's interesting. I've never met a CA that couldn't be sanded off the top of it didn't wick into endgrain, so maybe being picky about your brand of CA has payoff...


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 5:02 am 
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There was much talk about the importance of the finish without mention of what the finish was.

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cross linked urethane varnish just guessing ??


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As I recall he said catalyzed urethane in the video. Count me as a fan as well, especially as applied by Tony Ferguson.

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meddlingfool wrote:
Hmm, that's interesting. I've never met a CA that couldn't be sanded off the top of it didn't wick into endgrain, so maybe being picky about your brand of CA has payoff...


A few years back I sealed up the binding on ten scraped instruments with superglue, to find the stains the next day. No endgrain was exposed. Couldn't sand it out. There was a lot of sunbursts that year...

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An amazing collection of tools and special jigs. That resaw bandsaw was particularly impressive!

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I guess I've just been lucky all these years...


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...or very sensibly chose a good CA! What are you using Ed?

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 6:27 pm 
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Well, it's not sensibility I'll tell you that, but luck of the draw. At Larrivee we used Jet so that's what I used.

Then I used PM Hansen cause that's what they carry at the hobby store.

Now I use GluBoost cause I bought some so there we go.

One thing I know for sure is that I hate CA. But it does do things that nothing else can do so I put up with constantly glueing myself to things and finding CA getting into things it has no business being near...


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Thanks, Ed.

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