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Author:  Robert Lak [ Sun Dec 04, 2016 2:26 pm ]
Post subject:  use of the dewalt 611 laminate trimmer for rosette?
have the Dewalt trimmer for routing binding ledge but was wondering about using it for the rosette channels as well.

Thinking i could somehow use this LMI tool if i can figure out how to attach it to the Dewalt base...
http://www.lmii.com/products/media-gift ... attachment

Other than that, anyone have a suggestion for a circle cutter that can be used with this trimmer? I'd like to keep it sub $200

in lieu of that, i'll just use the hand cutter and a chisel...
http://www.lmii.com/products/tools-serv ... cle-cutter

And while we're at it... any other suggestions for handy-dandy jigs for that trimmer would be appreciated. :)

Thanks!
Author:  Clinchriver [ Sun Dec 04, 2016 3:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: use of the dewalt 611 laminate trimmer for rosette?
I like the Dewalt, you can get a low runout collet from precise bits.
I bit the bullet and ran down a Porter Cable PC310 and a Bishop-Cochrane base, it was worth every penny.
Author:  James Orr [ Sun Dec 04, 2016 5:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: use of the dewalt 611 laminate trimmer for rosette?
Congrats on choosing a trimmer!

Sylvan Wells makes a great circle cutting jig. I used one before getting the Bishop Cochrane base, and it worked great.
Author:  kjaffrey [ Sun Dec 04, 2016 5:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: use of the dewalt 611 laminate trimmer for rosette?
I made a copy of the Wells-Karol circle cutting jig and love it. It was pretty easy to make (took a couple hours if that) and has great accuracy and precision when using it with my colt router and a precise collet. You can see a video on making it here
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9oRqUK-CMIo
Or I believe Wells has some for sale on his website if you want to go that route
http://www.wellsguitars.com/Available_Instruments/Luthier_Tools.html

Making it is not a bad option though I would not use UHMW plastic again but would go with a tougher substance

Kent
Author:  Trevor Gore [ Sun Dec 04, 2016 5:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: use of the dewalt 611 laminate trimmer for rosette?
Circle cutter:
Attachment:
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Saddle mill:
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Both with zero-backlash micro-adjusters, both shop-made.
Author:  Robert Lak [ Sun Dec 04, 2016 7:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: use of the dewalt 611 laminate trimmer for rosette?
So this is actually the blessing and the curse of this place... Somebody like me with the minimum skillset can actually look at what you post and think..."hey... i just might be able to DO that!"... but now i got to go make one...

So while the wells' cutter has a great price... you guys have inspired me to give it a go. kjaffrey, thanks for the link to Chris Paulicks videos. Those really were the deciding factor.

Trevor - thanks for the pictures, truly worth the thousand words, but i'm having some difficulty figuring out how your circle cutter works.

It looks to me like the router, and the two narrow blocks are all screwed down to the acrylic base. that means the larger block moves back and forth and so the center pin must be attached to that. I am guessing there's a piece of acrylic that fits in the large slot and its attached to the moving block and the pin is set into that somehow. I see what looks like a screw inside the router viewing area. Is that the pin? Do you have a picture of the underside of this rig? I also see what appears to be a notch in the underside of the block nearest the router. If that's to allow the center pin to pass through that block, then i am wrong about the screw in the viewing area being the set pin. So i am missing something.


So i can see me making some version of these two... mainly because i am unsure whether a drill press is adequate for drilling the aluminium and where i would get blocks that size, So i will probably use hardwood blocks.

Thanks again for the ideas!!
Author:  Trevor Gore [ Sun Dec 04, 2016 7:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: use of the dewalt 611 laminate trimmer for rosette?
Robert Lak wrote:
It looks to me like the router, and the two narrow blocks are all screwed down to the acrylic base.

Yes.
Robert Lak wrote:
that means the larger block moves back and forth and so the center pin must be attached to that.

Yes. The large aluminium block rides in linear bearings (overkill).
Robert Lak wrote:
I am guessing there's a piece of acrylic that fits in the large slot and its attached to the moving block and the pin is set into that somehow.

Yes.
Robert Lak wrote:
I see what looks like a screw inside the router viewing area. Is that the pin?

Its an M6 countersunk cap screw that holds the 10mm diameter pivot pin in place. The pivot pin can be relocated so that extra-small or extra-large circles can be cut
Robert Lak wrote:
I also see what appears to be a notch in the underside of the block nearest the router.

That's just a hole which acts as support for that end of the screw adjuster.
Robert Lak wrote:
Do you have a picture of the underside of this rig?

Sorry!

It's pretty precise!

Attachment:
DSCF7793s.jpg
Author:  Robert Lak [ Sun Dec 04, 2016 8:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: use of the dewalt 611 laminate trimmer for rosette?
Got It! bliss
No need for "sorry", This is perfect!

Now the problem will be to do it justice!

Thank you all again!

Rob
Author:  Aaron O [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 11:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: use of the dewalt 611 laminate trimmer for rosette?
Trevor Gore wrote:
Saddle mill:
Attachment:
DSCF5589s.jpg


Both with zero-backlash micro-adjusters, both shop-made.

Sorry this is off topic, but I'm trying to wrap my head around this one. . .
Author:  Terence Kennedy [ Wed Dec 07, 2016 12:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: use of the dewalt 611 laminate trimmer for rosette?
Just for the hell of it here's another. Charles Fox showed us this when I took his course in 2004. I made one and it served me very well until I sprung for a Bishop Cochran base a couple of years ago.

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Author:  Trevor Gore [ Wed Dec 07, 2016 4:35 am ]
Post subject:  Re: use of the dewalt 611 laminate trimmer for rosette?
Aaron O wrote:
Sorry this is off topic, but I'm trying to wrap my head around this one. . .

Attachment:
DSCF5589s.jpg

Used in conjunction with this jig:
Attachment:
DSCF4175s.jpg

The fence rides between the rails...

The jig on the guitar can also be used clamped to a bench with a bridge blank in the "letterbox". That's how I make classical bridges.

Copious detail, more pics etc. in the book.
Author:  Robert Lak [ Wed Dec 07, 2016 10:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re: use of the dewalt 611 laminate trimmer for rosette?
Terrence, thanks for those pics....

I had come up with something similar that I am in the process of building. For a second I thought you stole my thunder because I also eliminated the rails and setscrews etc., but what I have will keep the micro adjustment of the Wells-Karol jig and the simplicity of the Fox base. Of course, with all the maniacal engineers on this site, I am sure there's 12 other variations out there.

Now I just need some bench time...
Author:  Aaron O [ Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: use of the dewalt 611 laminate trimmer for rosette?
Trevor Gore wrote:
Aaron O wrote:
Sorry this is off topic, but I'm trying to wrap my head around this one. . .

Attachment:
DSCF5589s.jpg

Used in conjunction with this jig:
Attachment:
DSCF4175s.jpg

The fence rides between the rails...

The jig on the guitar can also be used clamped to a bench with a bridge blank in the "letterbox". That's how I make classical bridges.

Copious detail, more pics etc. in the book.

Yup, plan on getting the book - let me clear some ukes. . .

And I thought mine was slick with the back angle caul. I like how the fence is in the rails - surprised you didn't over kill with the linear bearings there. . . Hmmm.
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