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Author:  Michaeldc [ Mon Feb 29, 2016 2:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Kerfed lining making gizmo

Here is a video of an automated kerfed lining fixture I just batched up. It work for both regular and reverse linings.

https://youtu.be/6zXhLX6M9FI

Sorry about the noisy bearing... I've since put some oil on that thing.

Michael

Author:  Don Williams [ Mon Feb 29, 2016 2:31 pm ]
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Nicely Done! Can you vary the spacing of the cuts?

Author:  meddlingfool [ Mon Feb 29, 2016 2:37 pm ]
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Slick!

Author:  Michaeldc [ Mon Feb 29, 2016 2:42 pm ]
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Don Williams wrote:
Nicely Done! Can you vary the spacing of the cuts?


Thanks Don

Yes, I can vary the spacing and the cut depth.

Author:  Heath Blair [ Mon Feb 29, 2016 3:00 pm ]
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That is one of the coolest dang things I've ever seen.

Author:  Colin North [ Mon Feb 29, 2016 3:17 pm ]
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Nicely done Michael!

Author:  Alex Kleon [ Mon Feb 29, 2016 3:52 pm ]
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Cool! Even makes it's own industrial soundtrack!

Alex

Author:  Pat Foster [ Mon Feb 29, 2016 6:10 pm ]
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Too cool!

Pat

Author:  JSDenvir [ Mon Feb 29, 2016 6:17 pm ]
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I just have to keep reminding myself that envy is a terrible thing. :-)

Very cool.

S

Author:  Mike OMelia [ Mon Feb 29, 2016 10:02 pm ]
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That's pretty cool. You seen Keith Mackensie's version? Chris Paulick posted this a while back. Very similar designs.

http://youtu.be/h-pdUWoNjPo

Mike

Author:  Michaeldc [ Mon Feb 29, 2016 10:26 pm ]
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Mike O'Melia wrote:
That's pretty cool. You seen Keith Mackensie's version? Chris Paulick posted this a while back. Very similar designs.

http://youtu.be/h-pdUWoNjPo

Mike


Mike,

My inspiration is based on Keith's design. I probably watched the YouTube video 30 times, studying the motion of the fixture. I probably thought about it another 3-4 days before drawing it so I could so I could cut the parts on my cnc machine. It was a very fun problem!

Chris, the presenter of Keith's design it pretty toasted, if you hadn't noticed.....

Author:  Mike OMelia [ Mon Feb 29, 2016 10:38 pm ]
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Chris always looks that way. You probably wouldn't want to see me in a video. ;)

Thank you for attributing design to Keith. I'm sure he'd be flattered to see your interpretation. It's good work.

Mike

Author:  Michaeldc [ Mon Feb 29, 2016 10:42 pm ]
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Mike O'Melia wrote:
Chris always looks that way. You probably wouldn't want to see me in a video. ;)


I love watching him set his beer down on the base of the band saw after struggling to get through the introduction....

Author:  Mike OMelia [ Mon Feb 29, 2016 10:42 pm ]
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I could never get Keith to provide the design. But, I'm sure you could sell the cut parts if reasonable. I'd entertain your quote.

Author:  Mike OMelia [ Mon Feb 29, 2016 10:43 pm ]
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Michaeldc wrote:
Mike O'Melia wrote:
Chris always looks that way. You probably wouldn't want to see me in a video. ;)


I love watching him set his beer down on the base of the band saw after struggling to get through the introduction....


Lol. Well Chris does do good jig work. Learned a lot from him.

Author:  Michaeldc [ Mon Feb 29, 2016 10:48 pm ]
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Mike O'Melia wrote:
I could never get Keith to provide the design. But, I'm sure you could sell the cut parts if reasonable. I'd entertain your quote.


I'd have to see if the fixture would fit other 14" saws before offering up the design for sale.

Author:  Mike OMelia [ Tue Mar 01, 2016 12:16 am ]
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It will.

Author:  kencierp [ Tue Mar 01, 2016 8:54 am ]
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Our machine is a stand alone tool -- an inexpensive Delta 10" was converted. The basic plan for this device has been around for a long time and can be found at frets.com

Author:  jfmckenna [ Tue Mar 01, 2016 11:13 am ]
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That's fantastic! I use kerfed linings sometimes and it's one of the only things I outsource because the time and frustration involved in doing it is simply not economically worth it. In fact I mostly do solid linings because it's a lot easier.

So if you produce any for sale let me know and I can at least help you pay off that cool jig!

Author:  doncaparker [ Tue Mar 01, 2016 11:29 am ]
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Alex Kleon wrote:
Cool! Even makes it's own industrial soundtrack!

Alex


I can just hear Raymond Scott's Powerhouse, the music of busy machines that we all know from the old Warner Brothers cartoons.

Author:  kencierp [ Tue Mar 01, 2016 12:11 pm ]
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http://frets.com/FretsPages/Luthier/Too ... erfer.html

Author:  Michaeldc [ Tue Mar 01, 2016 12:31 pm ]
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kencierp wrote:
http://frets.com/FretsPages/Luthier/Tools/LiningKerfer/liningkerfer.html


Went out and found it over tea this morning.

Author:  Pmaj7 [ Tue Mar 01, 2016 4:20 pm ]
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Nice! It's sort of steampunk. You could somehow have the finished one trigger the next one in the chute and let'r run!

How thick is the web? is it flat or w shaped?

Author:  Michaeldc [ Tue Mar 01, 2016 4:42 pm ]
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pat macaluso wrote:
Nice! It's sort of steampunk. You could somehow have the finished one trigger the next one in the chute and let'r run!

How thick is the web? is it flat or w shaped?


The web is about .020" thick though it's fully adjustable. The first batch I made (50 pieces) has got a round-over just like reverse kerfed linings only they are cut like standard linings. You can make reversed or regular simply by flipping the piece.

Author:  kencierp [ Tue Mar 01, 2016 5:31 pm ]
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I set up the stroke mechanism on ours using a cam action. There's a spring loaded buffer bar to compensate for wear and also allow fine adjust using shims --- you can see my very high tech card stock and masking tape shim on the slide stop. I should really confess that this device was built several years ago as a concept model -- the principles involved and the design road map put forth by Frank Ford where so good that we just continue to use this in production.

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