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| Author: | Rocky Road [ Wed Feb 17, 2016 1:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | BRW or EIR? |
A few years ago a good friend of mine many years earlier in his life built lutes and guitars. As a Gift he gave me a ab& S set which he said was Brazilian rosewood. After running it through the wide belt I found myself wondering if it is BRW. I've never worked it before only EIW. This wood looks like and smells like EIW. How can I positively identify it? Any help y'all can give would be great.    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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| Author: | DennisK [ Wed Feb 17, 2016 1:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: BRW or EIR? |
Definitely looks like Indian to me. You can usually tell it apart from other rosewoods by its pores, which are smaller and more numerous. Brazilian can usually be identified by smell. But if you really want to be sure, try the fluorescence test. Put some shavings in water and see if they glow blue/green under a black light. Brazilian doesn't glow. |
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| Author: | kencierp [ Wed Feb 17, 2016 1:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: BRW or EIR? |
EIR |
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| Author: | Tom West [ Wed Feb 17, 2016 2:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: BRW or EIR? |
East Indian Rosewood. Tom |
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| Author: | AndyB [ Wed Feb 17, 2016 2:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: BRW or EIR? |
EIR for sure. You can't mistake the smell, either. Andy |
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| Author: | Hesh [ Wed Feb 17, 2016 2:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: BRW or EIR? |
Yep, EIRW it is. Probably no need to taste it or be thankful that we didn't step in it...  * Not intending to dis EIRW, great stuff, just have arrested development lately with Cheech and Chong... PS: It's a good looking set to boot, should make a great guitar. |
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| Author: | Mike Collins [ Wed Feb 17, 2016 3:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: BRW or EIR? |
if ya sand it and it smells like a sweaty horse-its Indian! Mike |
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| Author: | jfmckenna [ Wed Feb 17, 2016 4:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: BRW or EIR? |
I agree it's definitely EIR but I disagree that smell is a definitive test. Honestly BRW and EIR smell the same or similar enough for me to not know. But then I go to wine tastings with my wife to and to me all wine that is colored red is simply red wine, taste all the same to me, so it depends on the person I guess. But yeah sometimes you can tell obviously by the look and that is EIR for sure. |
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| Author: | meddlingfool [ Wed Feb 17, 2016 4:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: BRW or EIR? |
EIR. |
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| Author: | Rod True [ Wed Feb 17, 2016 5:11 pm ] |
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Ya, what they all said. |
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| Author: | Rocky Road [ Wed Feb 17, 2016 5:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: BRW or EIR? |
Wow. OLF is a great forum. As I said having never run any BRW through my sander I wouldn't know. By its appearance and smell it said EIR to me. This set is over 50 years old and is all quarter sawn. It will be fun to show the fellow that gave me the rosewood the finished guitar. Thanks Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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| Author: | Rocky Road [ Wed Feb 17, 2016 5:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: BRW or EIR? |
Hesh- What's up with Cheech and Chong? Looking forward to meeting you in June. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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| Author: | Hesh [ Fri Feb 19, 2016 2:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: BRW or EIR? |
Rocky Road wrote: Hesh- What's up with Cheech and Chong? Looking forward to meeting you in June. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Hey David! Looking forward to meeting you too. I recently got my old Rega turntable out and was spinning some vinyl and my collection includes old George Carlin RIP and Cheech and Chong. I got to meet and spend some time with Tommy about 15 years ago so I know him. Cool AND funny guy!
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| Author: | Rocky Road [ Fri Feb 19, 2016 4:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: BRW or EIR? |
Sounds like you may be the same vintage as I. Remember Empire turntables? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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| Author: | Woodie G [ Sat Feb 20, 2016 7:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: BRW or EIR? |
Baking double chocolate brownies in a 340 degree oven (too hot! 325 maximum if using good baker's chocolate!) with a few minutes left to go = Brazilian rosewood; a sharper, tangier burnt batter smell with a hint of horse urine is more what I smell with East Indian rosewood. |
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| Author: | ChuckH [ Sun Feb 21, 2016 12:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: BRW or EIR? |
It is Indian Rosewood. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk |
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| Author: | Joe Beaver [ Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: BRW or EIR? |
David, it looks like EIR to me also. To be absolutely sure take a look at the Wood Database. They list two tests to be sure. The first is endgrain pore density. EIR has twice the pores as BRW. They show a picture for comparison. The other is fluorescence. When shavings are placed in a test tube with water and shaken up, then held under a black lite, BRW will not fluoresce while EIR will. |
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| Author: | Rocky Road [ Thu Mar 03, 2016 9:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: BRW or EIR? |
Yup. Y'all are right. EIR for sure. It's on it's way to becoming a parlor guitar. Many thanks for your help. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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