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Author:  meddlingfool [ Wed Jan 06, 2016 2:14 pm ]
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Anybody offer that service?

Author:  bftobin [ Wed Jan 06, 2016 2:25 pm ]
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I think our new sponsor Brian Howard does, but that is the US of A.

brent

Author:  Pmaj7 [ Wed Jan 06, 2016 3:05 pm ]
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Seems like the results could be quite subjective. Might be a good job for an amateur or semi pro with a lot of free time though because fp has the "keep working on it" factor.

Author:  Hesh [ Wed Jan 06, 2016 4:55 pm ]
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His name is escaping me at the moment but the gentleman who had the definitive FP toot on line and is in the Chicagoland area IIRC had a son who back in the day was offering this.

Author:  Rod True [ Wed Jan 06, 2016 5:47 pm ]
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Hesh wrote:
His name is escaping me at the moment but the gentleman who had the definitive FP toot on line and is in the Chicagoland area IIRC had a son who back in the day was offering this.


Richard and Marshall Brune

Author:  DennisK [ Wed Jan 06, 2016 6:28 pm ]
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Hesh wrote:
His name is escaping me at the moment but the gentleman who had the definitive FP toot on line and is in the Chicagoland area IIRC had a son who back in the day was offering this.

Milburn?

Author:  Eric Reid [ Wed Jan 06, 2016 9:55 pm ]
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We do French polish finishes for other builders here at my shop. Our regular customers include Ervin Somogyi, Leo Buendia, and Julian Gaffney. The woman who does our finishing has French polished over 1,000 high end, luthier built guitars. We also do finish repairs and refinishing, but only French polish. For lacquer finishes, Addam Stark is just down the road.

Author:  DannyV [ Wed Jan 06, 2016 10:39 pm ]
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You might ask Michael Dunn. He's done a few. Also in Courtenay, Al Hasikowa. Probably not how you spell his last name.

Author:  Hesh [ Thu Jan 07, 2016 7:41 am ]
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Eric Reid wrote:
We do French polish finishes for other builders here at my shop. Our regular customers include Ervin Somogyi, Leo Buendia, and Julian Gaffney. The woman who does our finishing has French polished over 1,000 high end, luthier built guitars. We also do finish repairs and refinishing, but only French polish. For lacquer finishes, Addam Stark is just down the road.


Two things please: First this is an example of some top tier Luthiers outsourcing so that their clients receive the best available value.

Next I'm simply curious and I know what nitro, poly, urethane finishers tend to charge but I've never had a view of what an expert FPer charges AND knowing as I do the time necessary to do FP very well.... what's this cost?

Thanks

Author:  B. Howard [ Thu Jan 07, 2016 8:02 am ]
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bftobin wrote:
I think our new sponsor Brian Howard does, but that is the US of A.

brent



Yes, I offer FP finishes. Typical pricing is $575 for an entire guitar.

Author:  meddlingfool [ Thu Jan 07, 2016 2:21 pm ]
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This is good to know. Have you tried Royal-Lac?

Author:  Eric Reid [ Fri Jan 08, 2016 12:46 am ]
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Hesh wrote:
Eric Reid wrote:
We do French polish finishes for other builders here at my shop. Our regular customers include Ervin Somogyi, Leo Buendia, and Julian Gaffney. The woman who does our finishing has French polished over 1,000 high end, luthier built guitars. We also do finish repairs and refinishing, but only French polish. For lacquer finishes, Addam Stark is just down the road.


Two things please: First this is an example of some top tier Luthiers outsourcing so that their clients receive the best available value.

Next I'm simply curious and I know what nitro, poly, urethane finishers tend to charge but I've never had a view of what an expert FPer charges AND knowing as I do the time necessary to do FP very well.... what's this cost?

Thanks


We charge $650 for most guitars, a little more for some extremely ornate models.

Author:  Hesh [ Fri Jan 08, 2016 6:14 am ]
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That's an excellent price and a real value. I know how long FP can take.....

Thanks Eric!

Author:  Woodie G [ Fri Jan 08, 2016 6:59 am ]
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I had a chance to look at a new Eric Reid classical guitar a few weeks ago when it came into the shop for a dealer-warranted finish touch-up. The shared opinion of the more experienced here was that the French polish finish was stellar - some of the thinnest, most consistent work these gentlemen had seen on a classical in years and marvelously well done. The retouch work on the neck - damaged by the owner's untrimmed thumbnail on his left hand - was quickly done and the instrument returned to service.

Bravo, Mr. Reid! A lovely instrument and a beautifully applied finish!

Author:  B. Howard [ Fri Jan 08, 2016 7:52 am ]
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meddlingfool wrote:
This is good to know. Have you tried Royal-Lac?


No, I use shellac buttons for my finishes. Same stuff they used on gym and ballroom floors before poly was invented. Very tough and durable.

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