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| Author: | RaymundH [ Tue Sep 08, 2015 12:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Brazilian Rosewood Veneer |
So, if you had full access to an old fully veneered Braz log (9"x10'x0.025") that was just sitting in a warehouse with full paperwork...How would you procede to construct a guitar. Currently, we're reviewing Bogdanovich's laminated sides quite closely and a few arch top builders for idea's on laminated backs. Planning on putting a torrified Adi top on it just to make a true experimental piece. Thanks, Ray |
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| Author: | James Ringelspaugh [ Wed Sep 09, 2015 4:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Brazilian Rosewood Veneer |
I did a couple of romantic-style guitars with BRW veneer. I used the veneer over spruce for the back, over padauk for the sides, and over Indian rosewood for the fretboard. They came out great. |
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| Author: | Clay S. [ Wed Sep 09, 2015 4:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Brazilian Rosewood Veneer |
I proceed by drying out, then gluing up, three or four layers of the veneer in the same sequence it was cut from the log using west system epoxy over a bending form or between flat pieces of melamine coated particle board (using wax paper between the form and work). |
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| Author: | Mike OMelia [ Wed Sep 09, 2015 10:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Brazilian Rosewood Veneer |
Doesn't an approach like this invite witness lines of the worst sort? Just trying to follow the concept. |
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| Author: | RaymundH [ Thu Sep 10, 2015 7:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Brazilian Rosewood Veneer |
Update: I cut two pieces of veneer out (4"x8") and treated with SuperSoft 2 overnight to soften and flatten the material. The next day I glued one veneer to a zebrawood carrier board using fish glue and the second veneer to a EIR carrier board using original Titebond. I plan on using these as peghead veneers so this was a test to observe glue squeeze out through the veneer. The fish glue came through a bit more than the Titebond, as I assume the Titebond has a higher solids value (?), although both came off with a little sanding. With only .025" to work with sand through is a great concern. I ordered a bottle of Titebond Cold Press Veneer glue for the next little test befor we tackle the back and sides. The original is fine and a proven luthier glue, however, I would like to further minimize squeeze through due to potential sand through. On a positive note the pegheads are going to look very nice! |
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| Author: | jfmckenna [ Thu Sep 10, 2015 7:55 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Brazilian Rosewood Veneer |
Can't claim to have the experience to know any better but i like the look of rosewood veneer on top of mahogany for Selmer style guitars. I'd be thrilled to find such a piece of veneer. |
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| Author: | Barry Daniels [ Thu Sep 10, 2015 11:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Brazilian Rosewood Veneer |
If you use epoxy to glue the veneer and for subsequent pore filling then bleed through is not an issue. |
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| Author: | MikeyV [ Thu Sep 10, 2015 11:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Brazilian Rosewood Veneer |
I've just done this on my current build. I laminated a BRW veneer to the outside of a Spanish cedar side. Bent the side, then laminated the veneer on using a form. I used Titebond. It worked very well, and the side is nice and strong. I'm about to string it up, we'll see how it goes. The back is also BRW laminated over Red Spruce. Top is Red Spruce. |
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| Author: | RaymundH [ Thu Sep 10, 2015 12:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Brazilian Rosewood Veneer |
@MikeyV Wow, laminated over Spanish Cedar and Red Spruce. That is going to be a very nice light guitar which for me is way better that a heavy one! Can you describe the form you used to laminate the Braz to the cedar side? |
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| Author: | Terence Kennedy [ Thu Sep 10, 2015 1:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Brazilian Rosewood Veneer |
On my double side models I profile and bend both sides together so they fit very well together on the laminating form. They are usually .040-.060 each so you should be able to easily do .025. Should give a great looking guitar. |
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