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Author:  Cablepuller [ Sun Feb 15, 2015 4:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Staining advice

Hi
Can anyone tell me how i go about staining this mahogonay neck to a darker rosewood colour to match the body better

The neck needs filling and I have some clear grain water based filler should i use this before staining?
Then what stain should i use ..was planning on using spray nitro lacquer
As a final satin finish
Cheers

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Author:  bluescreek [ Sun Feb 15, 2015 6:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Staining advice

don't over sand , I don't sand much past 180. If you are looking for a martin style this is a 2 color process. I use 3 colors
Minwax special walnut Dark walnut and ebony.
Special walnut first then dark walnut on top. The special walnut has more red in it. Last I use the ebony in the filling process when I am mixing my filler and getting that color darker.

Author:  B. Howard [ Mon Feb 16, 2015 6:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Staining advice

Stain first then seal and then fill the grain and seal again.
John is right on the sanding, going past 180 is not necessary and can actually be detrimental.
I use Solar-Lux stains, a blend of about 2 parts med red mahogany : 1 part hickory is a good mix for a rosewood color.

Author:  kencierp [ Mon Feb 16, 2015 9:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Staining advice

Brian is the Solar-Lux a wipe off stain or applied like a dye?

Author:  Nils [ Mon Feb 16, 2015 9:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Staining advice

You can also tint the lacquer.

Author:  Nils [ Mon Feb 16, 2015 9:52 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Staining advice

B. Howard wrote:
John is right on the sanding, going past 180 is not necessary and can actually be detrimental.

Just in general or if you're staining? I religiously sand everything to 220 in the prep stage. Never past that though.

Author:  Cablepuller [ Mon Feb 16, 2015 11:29 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Staining advice

Can i use clear grain sealer? And will the sealer work ok with spray lacquer
Cheers

Author:  B. Howard [ Tue Feb 17, 2015 7:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Staining advice

kencierp wrote:
Brian is the Solar-Lux a wipe off stain or applied like a dye?


It is a dye stain.

Author:  B. Howard [ Tue Feb 17, 2015 7:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Staining advice

Nils wrote:
B. Howard wrote:
John is right on the sanding, going past 180 is not necessary and can actually be detrimental.

Just in general or if you're staining? I religiously sand everything to 220 in the prep stage. Never past that though.


As a general rule of wood finishing. My prep sanding is 220 on spruce or maple and 180 for everything else. Most coatings manufacturers actually advise prepping at 150, but that is generally for ROS which tends to burnish the wood a bit more than hand sanding as I do in all my prep work. Sanding too fine can leave the wood to smooth for the coating to grab onto and is a leading cause of finish delaminations. High solids coatings need more tooth on the surface while finishes like oil or shellac need less.

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