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| Author: | Colin North [ Wed May 28, 2014 10:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Figured EIR |
Just bought a set for a reasonable price on the bay, and I'm interested to see it in the "flesh". Has anyone worked with figured EIR? I'd be interested to see a pic of a finished guitar if you have one. Attachment: SET1.JPG
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| Author: | Neil Gardiner [ Thu May 29, 2014 7:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Figured EIR |
Hey Colin I built one with figured EIR. I had a bit of a problem with the backs warping as I recall. And if I recall correctly, it didn't have much of a tap tone to it. It turned into a nice guitar though. Sounds great. Italian top. Bloodwood binding. Here's a couple pictures:   
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| Author: | Colin North [ Thu May 29, 2014 1:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Figured EIR |
Thanks Neil, good looking guitar. The tap tone I expect to be like cardboard, and the warping is no shock. Glad it turned out such a good looker. Any chance you remember how thick the back ended up? |
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| Author: | TimAllen [ Thu May 29, 2014 8:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Figured EIR |
This is one is in process. I think this photo makes the back look a bit lighter than it is, but you can see the figure. |
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| Author: | Clay S. [ Fri May 30, 2014 8:25 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Figured EIR |
So from "opportunity grade " to "figured" EIR..... |
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| Author: | TimAllen [ Sat May 31, 2014 12:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Figured EIR |
Ha! Yes, it's not a defect, it's an opportunity, and it's not just an opportunity, it's figured! You used to be able to get "opportunity grade" sets from Allied Lutherie for about $25 a set, if i remember correctly. I have a couple. I thought they were worth the money, but the characteristics that made them "opportunity grade" were generally serious enough that they required epoxy filling, at least on mine; it wasn't about wavy grain. EIR sets with straight-grained sides and figured backs, similar to those shown in this thread, seem to cost about 20-30% more than similar straight-grained EIR sets. For example, see the inventory of OLF sponsor West Penn Hardwoods. I like the look of figured EIR, but I've only bought one set because I do have some concern about its long-term stability. The wild-grained BRW Martin used in the late 1960s tended to be crack-prone in some cases. I had to repair a couple of cracks in my 1969 D-35 in the late 1970's. Since then it's been OK. I'm not 100% sure about moderately figured EIR, but my impression is that it's a pretty stable wood. So I did build with the set I have been hanging onto for the last 9 years, which hasn't cracked in that time--of course, it hasn't been under stress. Fingers crossed. Anybody have any long term experience with this type of EIR? |
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| Author: | Colin North [ Sat May 31, 2014 5:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Figured EIR |
That's the kind of info I was looking for. This set was bought inexpensively due to lack of bids. I liked the price, and look of it, so bought it out of curiosity I suppose. |
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| Author: | Peebs [ Sat May 31, 2014 7:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Figured EIR |
I bought a set of "wild figured" eir from Grizzley 6-7 years ago, and built a really nice drednaught. Unfortunately my skills at the time were not up to my standards, so I finished it, and hung it on the wall in my garage. Several years of cold, dry winters, and hot humid summers have produced no visible damage. Al |
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| Author: | Clay S. [ Sat May 31, 2014 7:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Figured EIR |
I bought about a dozen sets of the "opportunity grade" sets some years ago. Buying multiple sets allowed me to color match backs and sides a little better. Since I build a number of different instruments and sizes, I choose pieces where I can cut out the defects to "upgrade" the wood a bit. I don't see opportunity grade listed any more, and in fact Allied mentions that "anomalies" in the wood can put it in a higher grade. Who'd a thunk it! |
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| Author: | mike-p [ Fri Jun 27, 2014 11:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Figured EIR |
Hi Colin, How's the set in the flesh? Some more listed on the bay, Mike |
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| Author: | Colin North [ Fri Jun 27, 2014 12:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Figured EIR |
Hi Mike, only arrived the same day I left, so got a quick look before I went to work, but looked OK, if slightly warped. Got it weighted down. |
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| Author: | Fred Tellier [ Fri Jun 27, 2014 1:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Figured EIR |
I picked up this set from RC at the ASIA symposium 3 years ago and was quickly requested by a client for his build. Before finish  Completed 
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| Author: | Herr Dalbergia [ Fri Jun 27, 2014 1:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Figured EIR |
Beautiful,!!!! I like it all...straight grained old school dark spider webbing landscape figured blisterd birdseyed discoloured stump spalted rotten WOOD Cheers, alex |
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| Author: | Kamusur [ Fri Jun 27, 2014 7:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Figured EIR |
Herr Dalbergia wrote: Beautiful,!!!! I like it all...straight grained old school dark spider webbing landscape figured blisterd birdseyed discoloured stump spalted rotten WOOD Cheers, alex ![[:Y:]](./images/smilies/smiley20.gif "Thumbs Up") Some very nice work featuring that horrible nasty figured stuff. Steve |
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| Author: | Bobc [ Sun Jun 29, 2014 7:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Figured EIR |
Beautiful guitar Fred |
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| Author: | Bobc [ Sun Jun 29, 2014 7:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Figured EIR |
Very nice Neal. Beautiful work |
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| Author: | Fred Tellier [ Sun Jun 29, 2014 9:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Figured EIR |
Bob that back and side set came from your stash 3 years ago. Pete showed it to me at ASIA and I had to take it home. Fred |
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