Got this picture from a customer, apparently his neighbor sat, or fell, on it... That's the story, anyways. I don't really enjoy doing repairs in the first place, especially on my own stuff. It was a good sounding dread, too. Sigh...
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| Author: | Arnt Rian [ Fri May 02, 2014 8:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | My guitar has really opened up... |
Got this picture from a customer, apparently his neighbor sat, or fell, on it... That's the story, anyways. I don't really enjoy doing repairs in the first place, especially on my own stuff. It was a good sounding dread, too. Sigh... |
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| Author: | Haans [ Fri May 02, 2014 8:30 am ] |
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That's a shame Arnt. Are the ribs OK? Retops aren't too bad... |
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| Author: | Fred Tellier [ Fri May 02, 2014 8:38 am ] |
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That is a real shame Arnt, hopefully it only needs a new top. Fred |
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| Author: | sdsollod [ Fri May 02, 2014 8:39 am ] |
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| Author: | Arnt Rian [ Fri May 02, 2014 8:40 am ] |
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The ribs are OK I'm told, at least there is no missing wood, so I think its mainly a retop. Boring work, none the less |
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| Author: | jfmckenna [ Fri May 02, 2014 8:40 am ] |
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I was afraid that the title of your thread was word play I would recommend stainless steel bracing for the next one. And let your customer know that drinking and guitar playing don't necessarily go well together  But hey it's all in a day's work right? I mean that aint covered by warranty. |
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| Author: | Arnt Rian [ Fri May 02, 2014 8:42 am ] |
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The repair coming out of the neighbor's pocket for sure. I'm going to suggest that they switch to telecasters (or banjos) for their get-togethers... |
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| Author: | cphanna [ Fri May 02, 2014 9:02 am ] |
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Arnt, I was expecting to see a link to a sound sample. Then.....OUCH! That has to be discouraging, frustrating, maddening, or all of the above. But I'd like to make a request. As you repair and re-top the instrument, please document your process and post it when it's convenient for you. Your construction threads are always so well documented and explained. I am sure a repair thread from you would be just as informative, and many readers could learn from it. Good luck and best regards, Patrick |
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| Author: | Clay S. [ Fri May 02, 2014 9:05 am ] |
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Sad to see. I'm sure the owner and neighbor were not happy. I wouldn't think of it as boring work. To me, making and bracing the top is one of the most interesting parts of building the guitar. Better that you retop it than some repairman who will let his work wear your tag. I'm sure it is depressing to rebuild a guitar you were happy with the sound of originally. |
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| Author: | George L [ Fri May 02, 2014 9:44 am ] |
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Egads! As a huge fan of your beautiful work that picture makes me feel a bit nauseated. The neighbor must be absolutely mortified. |
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| Author: | mkellyvrod [ Fri May 02, 2014 9:45 am ] |
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Oh man, not good. I don't think I could get excited by the thought of repairing it either, especially when you were already happy with the initial result. |
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| Author: | Chris Pile [ Fri May 02, 2014 10:24 am ] |
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So will the neighbor pay for the repair, or will his widow? |
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| Author: | DannyV [ Fri May 02, 2014 10:35 am ] |
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"Could have been the whiskey, might have been the gin" Ouch!! |
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| Author: | wbergman [ Fri May 02, 2014 12:33 pm ] |
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There was a thread recently on the cost to retop. I would be interested when you are all done to know how much you charge for the repair as compared to the cost of a new guitar. |
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| Author: | RusRob [ Fri May 02, 2014 12:44 pm ] |
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Who was it that said mistakes are opportunities? Sorry to see one of your guitars come back like that but it gives you a chance to do some serious repair work. I am sure it will be better than new when you are done with it. Bob |
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| Author: | Andy Birko [ Fri May 02, 2014 2:19 pm ] |
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You really should have included a "not safe for work" or "do not open if you have a weak stomach" warning in the title. Truthfully, the second I read the title I had an idea as to what was up
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| Author: | Hesh [ Fri May 02, 2014 3:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: My guitar has really opened up... |
Some of you guys are wussies.... if this bothers you to see.....  Please note smiley face....Sorry this happened Arnt but it's infinately repairable and knowing how you build it should not be a tough job because you build superb stuff in a servicable manner. We see Martins that have been shot with OO buck shot, thrown at the departing owner, you name it..... Keeps it interesting. We also see lots of guitars that someone sat on..... too. Be sure to check the back braces they typically come loose too with guitars suffering from being sat on. Feel free to charge what the job is worth. In the US quality work from a quality shop can be in the $2K US range. You know too on the jobs that we see that were sat on the steward is always keen to blame the offender and usually comments on the size of the offending arse as well....  But.... no pun intended my mind always goes to the idea that if one did not leave the guitar in a sittable (is that a word...) place maybe it would not attract someone's arse.... Go figure....  Hang in there my friend. |
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| Author: | Alex Kleon [ Fri May 02, 2014 3:14 pm ] |
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Unlike everyone else, I was totally taken by surprise.  I'm sure that everybody is feeling pretty low about this accident. Your instruments are always beautiful, Arnt, so your customer must be devastated. Alex |
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| Author: | Quine [ Fri May 02, 2014 3:19 pm ] |
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Well....That's one way to lower the action |
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| Author: | Dan K [ Fri May 02, 2014 3:59 pm ] |
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+1, taken by suprise. I got the punch in the gut feeling when I saw that. |
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| Author: | mqbernardo [ Fri May 02, 2014 4:05 pm ] |
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jeez... that one must have felt sour, to say the least. boring work indeed. |
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| Author: | Terence Kennedy [ Fri May 02, 2014 6:56 pm ] |
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Better tell him to loosen the strings before some really serious damage is done. Was there alcohol involved? |
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| Author: | Nick Royle [ Fri May 02, 2014 7:09 pm ] |
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Cap'n wrote: +1, taken by suprise. I got the punch in the gut feeling when I saw that. Same here. |
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| Author: | James Orr [ Fri May 02, 2014 7:33 pm ] |
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Such a beautiful guitar, too. How does someone sit down on a guitar? They're not the most inconspicuous things. |
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| Author: | Trevor Gore [ Fri May 02, 2014 8:00 pm ] |
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That'll buff out! (Not my line, but I had to laugh when I first saw it used.) Seriously, that must be "disappointing". Given the damage I can see (and likely more that I can't see), that is getting close to an economic write-off, in that clean-up and repair time by you, to your standards, will be approaching what it takes to build a new one. |
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