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Author:  bluescreek [ Thu Feb 20, 2014 6:03 pm ]
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I have been busy with #173. I can't describe this maple short of saying it is a sideways birds eye Maple. It isn't spalted . I got the wood plank a few months back and cut 4 sets out of it. I kept this one. I used Carpathian Spruce and I used a 1/4 in forward shifted X brace with 5/15 tone bars and scalloped them. I like tortoise and abalone together. I borrowed this from Jimmie Edmonds of Galax Va. The maple required some filling as the voided area in the figure went clear through. I used Med CA as a filling agent and sanded back to bare wood. I hope you enjoy . Of course I used a dovetail joint.

Author:  MaxBishop [ Thu Feb 20, 2014 6:12 pm ]
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That is a very unusual figure, John. It will be interesting to see it with finish.

Max

Author:  sdsollod [ Thu Feb 20, 2014 7:01 pm ]
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Wow, 173 that's very impressive John. I really like that one. Is that Evo fret wire? It looks kinda gold in the photo. Also, is the neck maple?
Steve

Author:  mkellyvrod [ Thu Feb 20, 2014 7:07 pm ]
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That is a very interesting pattern. You won't find that in the guitar store. I like it!!!

Author:  dzsmith [ Thu Feb 20, 2014 7:29 pm ]
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Freak-o-rama and very cool!

Author:  DannyV [ Thu Feb 20, 2014 8:13 pm ]
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Thanks for posting that John. Some much needed distraction. ;) I would dare to say that might be "bark inclusion". It's a pretty cool anomaly and I have know idea what causes it. Maybe the all knowing WIKI knows. I've never seen it in Maple but did a very cool kitchen out of Hemlock that was loaded with it. I've seen in in a couple other woods also.

I'd love to see it when you get it finished.

Author:  sdsollod [ Thu Feb 20, 2014 8:30 pm ]
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I like tortoise Purfling too...

Author:  bluescreek [ Thu Feb 20, 2014 8:36 pm ]
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that is german silver fret wire. Like the detail on the binding Steve. If you ever get a hold of snake wood , that is dynamite.

Author:  Bri [ Thu Feb 20, 2014 9:27 pm ]
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I would guess that it is ambrosia maple, caused by a fungus from the ambrosia beetle.
Pretty cool looking!

Brian

Author:  bluescreek [ Thu Feb 20, 2014 9:58 pm ]
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no it isn't , the maple isn't ambrosia , it is an inclusion . Much like birds eye only sideways. This isn't a beetle but it is possible it may be caused by another bug of some sort or any deviation from the norm. It is an interesting piece

Author:  bluescreek [ Fri Feb 21, 2014 7:25 am ]
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masur birch Howard Klepper Identified it. Pretty much looks like the picture

Author:  mqbernardo [ Fri Feb 21, 2014 10:41 am ]
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173 is indeed an impressive mark, congrats!
i have a swedish Berg chisel with Karelian / masur birch handle and it is close in looks to that back wood.

Author:  Steven Odut [ Fri Feb 21, 2014 11:18 am ]
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Where do you get the tortoise binding/purfling? I don't recall that being available from the big mail order companies.

Author:  sdsollod [ Fri Feb 21, 2014 11:37 am ]
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I got my tortoise binding from Martin. LMI sells it be they charge a hazardous material fee the Martin doesn't (or didn't use to...). I sliced the binding strip in a jig with a blade to make the narrower purfling...

Author:  jfmckenna [ Fri Feb 21, 2014 12:05 pm ]
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I've never seen anything like it. That's gonna pop something fantastic.

Author:  Darryl Young [ Fri Feb 21, 2014 12:25 pm ]
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From another site:

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I know a bit about masur birch (which I have seen called curly birch or Karelian birch as well).
It is name for this particular grain figure and is found in two birch species silver birch (Betula pendula and downy birch Betula pubescens).

Very commonly used in all of Scandinavia for knife handles. I have one knife with such handles, and it is quite nice.


Image

Author:  bluescreek [ Fri Feb 21, 2014 5:41 pm ]
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I get this made . It isn't the red stuff martin uses , this is a darker tortoise much like what was used in the old days.

Author:  DennisK [ Sat Feb 22, 2014 1:22 am ]
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Reminds me of the "cat's eye" maple headplates at RC http://rctonewoods.com/RCT_Store/headplates-c-9/cats-eye-maple-burl-hp-p-3124.html

Author:  J.L.K. Vesa [ Sat Feb 22, 2014 7:58 am ]
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The figure looks a lot like Masur Birch,
but the wood itself looks a lot more like maple than birch.
Also, the orientation of figures is something I have not
seen in Masur Birch before, it usually is more random, and I have seen a lot of it, made a guitar out of it,
so it is possible it is it, but I would not say it for sure.

Author:  bluescreek [ Sat Feb 22, 2014 8:39 am ]
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The wood has a sealer coat on it. So the natural wood color may be different. It is more yellow that the maple but only slightly.

Author:  Larry Davis [ Sat Feb 22, 2014 10:05 am ]
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I haven't posted here for very long time, but this is interesting. I process Masur birch (Karelian only if it's from Karelia, Russia) and this doesn't look like it. Looks way more like simple bird peck. Generations of birds often return to the same trees and work them over leaving scars similar to this. Patterns vary, of course. Karelian birch is largely controlled by the Russian mafia these days. Often produced by grafting with orchards in Sweden and other places.

Author:  mqbernardo [ Sat Feb 22, 2014 10:19 am ]
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Mafia? yikes!... some parts of karelia lie outside of Russia right? well, maybe they don´t produce enough timber to be considered. Since i´ve already went into Off-topic turf (and since you seem to be in the know), hope you don´t mind if i stretch it a bit further... Larry, can you tell me if it´s a special population of Betula pendula that produces masur birch, or if it´s a more scattered thing, like bird´s eye in maple?

sorry for the off-topic

Author:  bluescreek [ Sat Feb 22, 2014 3:51 pm ]
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interesting

Author:  Larry Davis [ Sun Feb 23, 2014 10:23 am ]
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mqbernardo wrote:
Mafia? yikes!... some parts of karelia lie outside of Russia right? well, maybe they don´t produce enough timber to be considered. Since i´ve already went into Off-topic turf (and since you seem to be in the know), hope you don´t mind if i stretch it a bit further... Larry, can you tell me if it´s a special population of Betula pendula that produces masur birch, or if it´s a more scattered thing, like bird´s eye in maple?

sorry for the off-topic



According to Auburn University's Ag Experiment Station Bulletin 486, Jan 1977, Masur (Maser) figure can be transferred by grafting, by seed (genetics) and the figure is caused by gene-controlled disturbances in the cambium area. In the wild, figure is associated with slow growth and/or deformed trees.

Author:  mqbernardo [ Sun Feb 23, 2014 11:01 am ]
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thanks.

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