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Author:  LarryH [ Wed Feb 05, 2014 10:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Powermatic 14" Band Saw
I have the chance to pick up a never been used 14" Powermatic saw with riser for $625.00.

Good deal? Should I wait for something bigger?

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Author:  Laidback1 [ Wed Feb 05, 2014 11:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Powermatic 14" Band Saw
I have the same saw and love it. How much re-sawing you plan on doing? Great saw & awesome price! I spent a few hundred dollars more than that
Author:  LarryH [ Thu Feb 06, 2014 12:01 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Powermatic 14" Band Saw
Not sure about the re-sawing but I do have a nice piece of Sapele that I plan to re-saw. I figured the 14" would be OK for that wood but not sure about anything harder. Do you use yours to re-saw?
Author:  Laidback1 [ Thu Feb 06, 2014 12:02 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Powermatic 14" Band Saw
A little but nothing big.....
Author:  ernie [ Thu Feb 06, 2014 7:46 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Powermatic 14" Band Saw
+1 BS
Author:  brazil66 [ Thu Feb 06, 2014 8:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Powermatic 14" Band Saw
I have a 14" saw...and have done lots of re-saw work with it. It's not ideal, and pushes it to the limit ...but it's done. I'd jump on that, were me.
Author:  Rodger Knox [ Thu Feb 06, 2014 1:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Powermatic 14" Band Saw
With a 1 1/2 HP motor, that should handle resaw without a problem. A 5/8" 2 or 3 TPI blade will probably work best, most 14" saws aren't stiff enough to adequately tension a 3/4" blade, though most of them say they will take a 3/4" blade. I've got a Rigid saw that's pretty similiar, but it's only got a 3/4 HP motor. I've resawn 9" cocobola with it without a probllem. It was a little slow, but I did get nice, uniform thickness pieces.
Author:  LarryH [ Thu Feb 06, 2014 3:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Powermatic 14" Band Saw
Missed the sale - but thanks so much for the replies and information.
Author:  Clinchriver [ Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Powermatic 14" Band Saw
Todd Stock wrote:
The cast saws will not tension over a 1/2", so not a saw for other than occasional resaw. The PM is the best of the Delta 14" clones, but don;t expect much more from it. Best to think about picking up a dedicated resaw at some point in the future if you plan on doing a lot of that sort of work.


True.

My mother in-law gave me her fathers 1950 Delta 14 inch bandsaw,"thanks mom". I fitted the extension and added a 2hp Baldor motor, really tuned it up and its a great bandsaw. Just barely enough for resawing.
Author:  sprouseod [ Thu Feb 06, 2014 8:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Powermatic 14" Band Saw
I bought one new with the riser. I have resawed Mahogany, Zircote, Wenge with out a problem. You need a GOOD 1/2" blade. I think I got the Lenox. It is a great BS and that['s a excellent price. Jump on it.

Richard
Author:  Clay S. [ Fri Feb 07, 2014 8:29 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Powermatic 14" Band Saw
That did look like a good deal. I'm not surprised it sold quickly.
It seems these discussions devolve into the resaw capability of the saw, but if you are building guitars that is only a small part of what you will do with the saw. Resawing can be a fun part of the hobby, but setting up the saw, finding wood, doing the resawing, and marketing the extra sets to help pay for everything can be quite a distraction from guitar building. As a person who is easily lead astray I offer this caution. [headinwall]
Author:  LarryH [ Fri Feb 07, 2014 9:26 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Powermatic 14" Band Saw
It is easy to notice the different experiences with the 14" saws. Some say it's too small to re-saw other have had pretty good luck. I will probably re-saw a few occasional sets as I have a pretty good supplier of exotic woods that are guitar quality, Mahogany, Sapele, Cocobolo etc. but I can't see the need to re-saw any additional for sale or anything other than for my own uses. With enough guitars a good re-saw capable saw would pay for itself.

Given that maybe a nicer 14" saw would do the trick but for under $1400 the Grizzley GO513X2B has is a very nice 17" that would be great for re-sawing and not that much extra for the capabilities. I have a Delta 10" toy that actually works pretty well with a nice blade that could serve for every day duties and the larger saw set up for heavier tasks which always seem to come up.

Anyway thanks so much for all the great information, might make the decision a little easier.
Author:  Rodger Knox [ Fri Feb 07, 2014 5:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Powermatic 14" Band Saw
LarryH wrote:
It is easy to notice the different experiences with the 14" saws. Some say it's too small to re-saw other have had pretty good luck.


If you're paying close attention, the amateurs are satisfied with 14" saws, while the pros need something larger.
I doubt that means the amateurs are able to get more out of the smaller saw, they just do much less resawing and can spend the extra time required with a smaller saw.
Author:  Clay S. [ Fri Feb 07, 2014 5:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Powermatic 14" Band Saw
Amateurs are also willing to sacrifice "yield" a little bit. When you get 3 1/2 sets where the pros get 4, you have really taken a 25% loss in production. Not a big deal if you are saving the cost of finished guitar sets, but quite a loss if resawing is your business.
Author:  Pmaj7 [ Sun Oct 22, 2017 11:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Powermatic 14" Band Saw
Rodger Knox wrote:
I've got a Rigid saw that's pretty similiar, but it's only got a 3/4 HP motor. I've resawn 9" cocobola with it without a probllem. It was a little slow, but I did get nice, uniform thickness pieces.

Wow! What kind of blade?
Author:  Rodger Knox [ Mon Oct 23, 2017 12:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Powermatic 14" Band Saw
I don't remember for sure which blade I used for the cocobolo, that was 15+ years ago. I did cut up some 8"+ sapele this weekend, using a 5/8" 3 tpi Timberwolf blade. That's become my favorite resaw blade. I'm sure there are better, more expensive blades available, but I don't resaw enough to make the investment worthwhile. It was very slow, the cut rate is less than 2" per minute on that deep a cut in sapele.
Author:  ernie [ Tue Oct 24, 2017 8:36 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Powermatic 14" Band Saw
Graduated to a laguna 20in older BS it has 14 in of resaw with a new 5 hp leeson motor. Using woodmaster ct blade exc machine simple to use and great for doing a lot of resaw. still have the minimax s 45 but have it set up for resawing small pcs of wood
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