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| Author: | TonyBal [ Tue Jan 28, 2014 12:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Total Noob looking for advice... |
I have never built a guitar before & am wondering the best way to start. I have a garage full of tools & want to put them to good use. I have been watching utube videos & searching the web. I don't really want to start with a kit but is there a list somewhere of all the parts that I will need with good sources to buy them. Any advice will be appreciated. ![[:Y:]](./images/smilies/smiley20.gif "Thumbs Up")
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| Author: | ZekeM [ Tue Jan 28, 2014 12:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Total Noob looking for advice... |
1.Read this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0811806405 2.Ask questions here 3.Have fun |
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| Author: | Rodger Knox [ Tue Jan 28, 2014 12:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Total Noob looking for advice... |
Check out the build threads on this forum, particularly the challenges. There's quite a few techniques, and they will also show all the parts and how the fit together. Also check out Cumpiano's website, he's made some improvements since the book was written. |
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| Author: | Mike Baker [ Tue Jan 28, 2014 12:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Total Noob looking for advice... |
You can use LMI's Kit wizard. It lists all the parts necessary to build an acoustic. However, I would recommend a good book on building as opposed to just roaming the internet looking for info. There are several out there, from Cumpiano to Kinkade to Sloane to Gore/Gillet . |
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| Author: | ZekeM [ Tue Jan 28, 2014 1:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Total Noob looking for advice... |
Filippo Morelli wrote: What kind of guitar? Electric, classical, steel? Filippo I hope it's a steel guitar!! That would be interesting to watch 
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| Author: | Colin North [ Tue Jan 28, 2014 1:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Total Noob looking for advice... |
First off Tony, welcome to the forum, and you're in the right place. If you're looking at an acoustic scratch build, this is also worth a look http://www.amazon.com/Build-Your-Own-Acoustic-Guitar/dp/0634054635/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1390932129&sr=8-5&keywords=make+your+own+guitar Comes with a full sized plan for an OM style guitar. The sponsors here are a good source of all kinds of stuff of course. |
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| Author: | the Padma [ Tue Jan 28, 2014 1:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Total Noob looking for advice... |
TonyBal wrote: I have never built a guitar before & am wondering the best way to start. I have a garage full of tools & want to put them to good use. I have been watching utube videos & searching the web. I don't really want to start with a kit but is there a list somewhere of all the parts that I will need with good sources to buy them. Any advice will be appreciated. Yay a nubee...Yay! Well nubee 1...welcome 2...don't read me post...me'll B.S. u all the way down the garden path. 3...tools are good...we gotts a few on this site...like me for instance  4...snooping around the web and watching utube is A1...means u do your own reasurch.Yay! 5...list of junk..ya sure Stew Mac & LMI catalougs hases nice list of parts in their kits. 6...Sources?... any of the dudes links at the top of this page, and ebay 7...advice...go get a real job... 8...serious advice, talk with your wood. Tell it what you need, want and expect of her...then get the heck out of the way and pay attention to what she be talking back at you. She will tell you exactly what to do to her so she can give you back what you want from her. Simply put, you and her must commune and unite as one. In that respects she becomes your perfect mate and will reward all your loving attention to her creation with a most beautiful voice. If you can get down on what me saying here , you got this game beat before even starting...if not, well me hear knitting is a nice hobby.  blessings  ?adma
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| Author: | TonyBal [ Tue Jan 28, 2014 1:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Total Noob looking for advice... |
Filippo Morelli wrote: What kind of guitar? Electric, classical, steel? Filippo Steel string acoustic.......
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| Author: | SKBarbour [ Tue Jan 28, 2014 2:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Total Noob looking for advice... |
I think for some folks who are starting off with limited wood working experience, a kit is the perfect way to start. They come with varying levels of fabricated parts, depending on the kit you choose. I did two kits before going at it on my own. That gave me a chance to slowly obtain some of the specialty tools that I didn't already have. There are plenty of folks with the skill to get started without using a kit. In which case just reading a couple of the books already suggested would probably be fine, along with the help of the fine folks here at the OLF. So I would say if in your research you feel you have the skill to go for it then go for it! Good luck and I hope to see what you decided on soon. |
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| Author: | RustySP [ Tue Jan 28, 2014 3:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Total Noob looking for advice... |
I talked at my wood and she said no way she was goin to be a guitar. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 |
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| Author: | the Padma [ Tue Jan 28, 2014 3:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Total Noob looking for advice... |
RustySP wrote: I talked at my wood and she said no way she was goin to be a guitar. Oh well ...maybe try stamp collecting instead, me hear its less stressful. |
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| Author: | the Padma [ Tue Jan 28, 2014 3:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Total Noob looking for advice... |
the Padma wrote: RustySP wrote: I talked at my wood and she said no way she was goin to be a guitar. ATTITUDE! DUDE attitude. Try talking with it...nobody likes to be talked at. Oh well ...maybe try stamp collecting instead, me hear its less stressful. ![[uncle]](./images/smilies/surrenderflagqv6.gif "Uncle")
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| Author: | the Padma [ Tue Jan 28, 2014 4:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Total Noob looking for advice... |
Filippo Morelli wrote: the Padma wrote: Oh well ...maybe try stamp collecting instead, me hear its less stressful. You try licking 1,000 stamps and let me know how stressful it is ... Filippo Flipo me dear and esteemed friend... ain't no philatelist would ever lick the gum off a stamp...it would deface the stamp from being in mint condition and lower it's value, don't ya know. As for ?adma lickin stamps...no way hoser...me had secretaries doing the licken.
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| Author: | Corky Long [ Tue Jan 28, 2014 4:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Total Noob looking for advice... |
You're in the right place! Welcome. My own favorite "starter" book for a first guitar is this one. http://www.amazon.com/Build-Your-Own-Ac ... 489&sr=1-1 For me it was a very good, comprehensive introduction to building a first guitar, including a discussion of the types of tools and jigs that are helpful. (notice I didn't say "necessary". There are many ways to skin a cat, and the gang on this site has tackled lots of them.) One suggestion is that when you have a question, do a quick search on the archives here. I'd bet that the same question has been posed a bunch of times in the last couple of years. there's a wealth of info here. Have fun! |
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| Author: | RustySP [ Tue Jan 28, 2014 4:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Total Noob looking for advice... |
Yes. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 |
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| Author: | ZekeM [ Tue Jan 28, 2014 4:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Total Noob looking for advice... |
the Padma wrote: RustySP wrote: I talked at my wood and she said no way she was goin to be a guitar. Oh well ...maybe try stamp collecting instead, me hear its less stressful. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rUZ-cxDTqnM |
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| Author: | Steven Odut [ Tue Jan 28, 2014 5:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Total Noob looking for advice... |
Sounds like you might already have some woodworking skills....? Hope you do, 'cause it's hard to learn woodworking and acoustic guitar building at the same time. I've done lots of woodworking and usually everything I build is from my own plans and from scratch. But for an acoustic guitar I thought it was necessary to follow a plan - first because the interlationships of the parts is critical to get the right neck angle, neck relief, action, etc. And mostly because without experience I have no way to judge how to brace the guitar AND get good sound from it. I built a nylon string classical, and bought the instructional DVD, plans, and templates from John Bogdanovich. The DVD was expensive, but being able to watch someone do each task and discuss what is happening was invaluable. Buying the templates saved some time. I slavishly followed his advice for top thicknessing and brace dimensions, and the end result was very good in my opinion. I also read and studied the books by Cumpiano Courtnal, Bogdanovich, and Kinkead. I referred to all the books to understand the different construction methods, but mostly stuck to the Bogdanovich methods. I took Bogdanovich's .pdf plans, and redrew them in AutoCAD (I'm an engineer I can't help myself). I found that having my own electronic plans helped me understand how neck angle, bridge height, top doming, etc. fit together, and the model was very useful to pull off dimensions that are omitted, unclear, or wrong in the plans. I also customized the plans to build exactly what I wanted (a classical with a cutaway). Then I made a list of all the tools and materials that I needed to order and sent a bunch of money to Stewmac, LMI, and Allied. Don't buy a bunch of specialist tools/crap you don't need - so much of what is offered is in my opinion really not necessary. I think I did pretty good avoiding junk; the only tool I regret buying is the string height gauge. Personally I see no need to start from a kit, although there may be some cost savings if you do (eg. if you have prebent sides and use plastic binding I guess you could avoid buying a bending iron). Then start building. There's nothing complicated about the woodworking if you already have experience in performing precision woodworking. Bending is probably a new skill you'll learn on the fly, but otherwise just dive into it and a year or so later you'll have a great guitar in your hands. For me the DVD instruction was very useful. |
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| Author: | WudWerkr [ Tue Jan 28, 2014 5:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Total Noob looking for advice... |
Welcome , I didnt start with a Kit . I have severallllll years of wud werkin cperince ... I bought a repair job off ebay and messed around with that a bit seeing how things were done and read alot . Asked ALOT of dumb questions ..... and started building . LOL |
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| Author: | EddieLee [ Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Total Noob looking for advice... |
I highly recommend these online courses. http://www.obrienguitars.com/courses/ |
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| Author: | emoney [ Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Total Noob looking for advice... |
Where you start is probably a person thing, but for me, I bought a book and had at it. The hardest part is getting started. The rest is piece of cake. |
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