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Author:  Blake Dixon [ Fri Oct 25, 2013 1:21 am ]
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A friend of mine and my self tried bending tiger myrtle wood with no luck at all. Process was a fox style bender layered from the bottom up: steel, aluminum foil, wood, aluminum foil steel, heat blanket at about 300 for about 5 to 10 minutes before bending the cut away. It broke both times at the cut away. I soaked in fabric softener for about 1/2 an hour. Wood was .080 so i don't think it was the thickness, pretty much quarter sawn as well. Any ideas?

Blake.

Author:  Clinchriver [ Fri Oct 25, 2013 6:14 am ]
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Blake Dixon wrote:
A friend of mine and my self tried bending tiger myrtle wood with no luck at all. Process was a fox style bender layered from the bottom up: steel, aluminum foil, wood, aluminum foil steel, heat blanket at about 300 for about 5 to 10 minutes before bending the cut away. It broke both times at the cut away. I soaked in fabric softener for about 1/2 an hour. Wood was .080 so i don't think it was the thickness, pretty much quarter sawn as well. Any ideas?

Blake.


Sounds like you over cooked it, 300 degrees is 300 degrees no point in waiting 10 minutes, to bend.

Author:  ernie [ Fri Oct 25, 2013 7:32 am ]
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Blake I/ve bent myrtle for a Cl. the sides were old .I used vy little water just a light mist and started bending at 250 deg f on an overholtzer cl alum bending form.which heats up vy slowly. I worked at it vy slowly took abt 1ominute per side.

Author:  Chuck Gilbert [ Fri Oct 25, 2013 8:35 am ]
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I'd say that 5 - 10 minutes at 300 degrees dried it out. I've found that there's no point in letting it sit at any particular temperature, just start bending when the temp gets to about 220 or so - when you see steam - and go slowly.

Chuck

Author:  James Orr [ Fri Oct 25, 2013 9:23 am ]
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I made this video about a year ago. It wasn't meant to be informational, but I do note the routine, and you can see how easily the tiger myrtle bends. What isn't noted is that I let it sit around 300 for about 20 minutes to set the bend.

Bending Sides

Author:  DannyV [ Fri Oct 25, 2013 10:26 am ]
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Ask his ex. I think she had him bent over pretty well.

Author:  Alex Kleon [ Fri Oct 25, 2013 1:03 pm ]
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laughing6-hehe Took me a minute! laughing6-hehe

Alex

Author:  Mike Collins [ Fri Oct 25, 2013 1:58 pm ]
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Blake;
did you try to make the bend quickly?

I always bend every side & especially cutaways
very slowly.
If I feel any resistance I stop!
let the wood get more heat & the fibers set to
go again.

Mike

Author:  Blake Dixon [ Sat Oct 26, 2013 12:46 pm ]
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Thanks so much for your help however my problem bend is the cut away. After the bend. The cut away is cracked. All the other bends are good. Any ideas about concentrating on the cut away bend?
Thanks
Blake

Author:  James Orr [ Sat Oct 26, 2013 1:40 pm ]
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Blake Dixon wrote:
Thanks so much for your help however my problem bend is the cut away. After the bend. The cut away is cracked. All the other bends are good. Any ideas about concentrating on the cut away bend?


Can you post a pic of the crack? The nature of the crack can be pretty revealing.

Author:  DannyV [ Sat Oct 26, 2013 3:02 pm ]
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James Orr wrote:
Blake Dixon wrote:
Thanks so much for your help however my problem bend is the cut away. After the bend. The cut away is cracked. All the other bends are good. Any ideas about concentrating on the cut away bend?


Can you post a pic of the crack? The nature of the crack can be pretty revealing.

wow7-eyes eek wow7-eyes eek I'm not sure Lance is going to like the direction this is going.

Author:  Blake Dixon [ Sat Oct 26, 2013 4:15 pm ]
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K will do next week I'm away right now I will post the photos and let you guys decide what I did wrong

Author:  Tai Fu [ Sat Oct 26, 2013 10:43 pm ]
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For cutaways or even non-dreadnaught sides, you want to thin the side down to no more than .07" or .065". It doesn't seem like much but the extra few thou of thickness really reduces stiffness by quite a lot and can solve most bending problem.

Author:  Blake Dixon [ Sun Oct 27, 2013 12:43 am ]
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So .08 is to thick?

Author:  Tai Fu [ Sun Oct 27, 2013 12:46 am ]
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It's too thick for cutaways. Even Robbie O Brien recommends thinning to .065" for cutaways and that's for an easy wood like Indian Rosewood.

Author:  Blake Dixon [ Sun Oct 27, 2013 12:52 am ]
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K will do I'll take it down to just over .65 thanks
Blake

Author:  Mike Collins [ Sun Oct 27, 2013 2:07 pm ]
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Is this a crack that follows the grain of the wood?
Or a fracture that goes cross grain?

Mike

Author:  Blake Dixon [ Sun Oct 27, 2013 3:19 pm ]
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Fracture across the grain almost a if it was bent to cold.

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