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Author:  Tai Fu [ Fri Sep 27, 2013 10:58 am ]
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Has anyone gotten one of those tablesaw fret slot blades and mounted it into a skilsaw, and with appropriate guides used it to power slot fretboards?
Author:  Alex Kleon [ Fri Sep 27, 2013 11:17 am ]
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I done know if it has been done before, but there would likely be a lot of blade runout, making it very difficult to do. Skil saws aren't meant for the most accurate cutting.

Alex
Author:  Tai Fu [ Fri Sep 27, 2013 11:23 am ]
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Could the same be said of benchtop tablesaw?
Author:  SteveG [ Fri Sep 27, 2013 12:22 pm ]
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Greg Nelson does.

http://www.nelsonsguitars.com/

cheers
Author:  Quine [ Fri Sep 27, 2013 12:38 pm ]
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I guess if you have a good skill saw and a good fixture to hold everything...should work ok.
Author:  Michael.N. [ Fri Sep 27, 2013 1:18 pm ]
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Heavy, cumbersome, will take a bit to set it up right. I can't think of one good thing to say of it over a simple hand saw technique!
Author:  SteveSmith [ Fri Sep 27, 2013 5:00 pm ]
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One of the old commercial quality worm drive skil saws would probably do fine. I would build a fixture to mount it upside down and just use it like a table saw.
Author:  the Padma [ Fri Sep 27, 2013 5:40 pm ]
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skill saw... sorts like carving the neck with a chain saw maybe? laughing6-hehe
Author:  murrmac [ Fri Sep 27, 2013 5:45 pm ]
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Why do people refer to circular saws as Skil saws ? I have never understood that ...Skil ( sic ...just the one "L") were but one of many makers of circular saws . It's a bit like referring to a vacuum cleaner as a Hoover.

So the answer to the question is that a corded Skil saw would be useless for the purpose, being far too heavy and cumbersome, as noted by Michael N above ...but ...if you were to get yourself a Makita 18v cordless circular saw, I could well envisage it being used for cutting fret slots with the right set-up, and obviously with the appropriate blade. I obtained one of these bad boys just recently, and the difference between the corded and the cordless Makita saw is like night and day.
Author:  Michael.N. [ Fri Sep 27, 2013 6:09 pm ]
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But a Vacuum cleaner is a Hoover. . . or a Hoover is a Vacuum cleaner. Everyone knows that!
Still can't work out why you would want to use a Circular Skil saw for fret slotting though. It almost seems like trying to find the most complicated way to cut a few slots in a narrow wooden board to the huge depth of. . . 2 mm's.
Author:  murrmac [ Fri Sep 27, 2013 7:04 pm ]
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Michael.N. wrote:
But a Vacuum cleaner is a Hoover. . . or a Hoover is a Vacuum cleaner. Everyone knows that!


Michael, you might want to Google "generic and genericized trademarks" ...
Author:  Tony_in_NYC [ Fri Sep 27, 2013 7:15 pm ]
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You should never use a skil saw to de-ice your Frigidaire.
Author:  John Sonksen [ Fri Sep 27, 2013 7:22 pm ]
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Tony_in_NYC wrote:
You should never use a skil saw to de-ice your Frigidaire.


pffft, why would anyone do that when a brush torch is so much faster?
Author:  nyazzip [ Fri Sep 27, 2013 7:37 pm ]
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you should never have the Crapper and the Frigidaire in the same room either
Author:  rtpipkin [ Fri Sep 27, 2013 10:08 pm ]
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I use a Skil angle grinder to de-ice my crapper, more run out for sure but very consistent.
Author:  John Sonksen [ Fri Sep 27, 2013 10:09 pm ]
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nyazzip wrote:
you should never have the Crapper and the Frigidaire in the same room either

What, you don't drink toilet beers?
Author:  nyazzip [ Fri Sep 27, 2013 10:20 pm ]
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i guess i stand corrected re: "crapper":
Wikipedia: It has often been claimed in popular culture that the slang term for human bodily waste, "crap", originated with Thomas Crapper because of his association with lavatories. The most common version of this story is that American servicemen stationed in England during World War I saw his name on cisterns and used it as army slang, i.e. "I'm going to the crapper".[8]

The word crap is actually of Middle English origin; and predates its application to bodily waste. Its most likely etymological origin is a combination of two older words, the Dutch krappen: to pluck off, cut off, or separate; and the Old French crappe: siftings, waste or rejected matter (from the medieval Latin crappa, chaff).[8] In English, it was used to refer to chaff, and also to weeds, or other rubbish. Its first application to bodily waste, according to the Oxford English Dictionary, appeared in 1846 under a reference to a crapping ken, or a privy, where ken means a house.
Author:  John Sonksen [ Fri Sep 27, 2013 10:27 pm ]
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One of my more recent jobs was for an eccentric couple who were remodeling a house that must have been built in the teens or twenties. They imported an authentic "Crapper" toilet from England, along with the gravity tank, pull chain and massive seat. It's quite an impressive throne, with enough seat to take all but the largest customers and is probably the most solidly built crapper I have ever seen. It even has a logo stamped in the inside of the bowl proclaiming it to be an "authentic crapper". Good stuff!
Author:  Alex Kleon [ Fri Sep 27, 2013 10:31 pm ]
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Theres a lot of crap to be learned on this forum!!! [:Y:]

Alex
Author:  Tai Fu [ Fri Sep 27, 2013 10:34 pm ]
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Speaking of toilets, I really hate squat toilets that exist all over Asia... Who invented such a thing??
Author:  Alex Kleon [ Fri Sep 27, 2013 10:36 pm ]
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Tai Fu wrote:
Speaking of toilets, I really hate squat toilets that exist all over Asia... Who invented such a thing??


That would be Thomas Diddly.

Alex
Author:  John Sonksen [ Fri Sep 27, 2013 11:00 pm ]
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Tai Fu wrote:
Speaking of toilets, I really hate squat toilets that exist all over Asia... Who invented such a thing??


Yeah, I was there for a month back in 2004 and managed to avoid them the whole time, they just scared the errrrr.... out of me?

One last thing because we've gotten way off track here, I briefly toyed with an idea for a product back around ten years ago or so, made to help with gastrointestinal distresses which some people say are a byproduct of the geometry of western style toilets. It was basically a little step stool that you put out in front of the toilet to raise your feet up off the ground and force you into more of a squatting position for doing that stuff, without having to get that low to the ground.

I was going to call it, "The Stool", offer it in several designs and colors to match any decor, and the motto was going to be, "give the squat a shot". It ended at the idea stage for me as I thought it would be impossible to market to all but the most dedicated granola's and because I thought there could be safety issues. I did talk to a few people about it casually though, and about a year ago I came across an ad for the exact product having been made right here in Portland, Oregon. It didn't seem like it was an active business by the time I found it, and the product name was different and less evocative, but it did kind of haunt me for awhile about whether someone had come up with that idea independently or they had actually tried to make a go with my idea. Doesn't really matter either way as I think my initial instinct about the difficulty with marketing was right, but it is pretty curious...
Author:  nyazzip [ Fri Sep 27, 2013 11:03 pm ]
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Quote:
Speaking of toilets, I really hate squat toilets that exist all over Asia... Who invented such a thing??


Quote:
That would be Thomas Diddly.


nooo.....Sir Diddley Squat. go back and read your history book
Author:  Michael.N. [ Sat Sep 28, 2013 4:21 am ]
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murrmac wrote:
Michael.N. wrote:
But a Vacuum cleaner is a Hoover. . . or a Hoover is a Vacuum cleaner. Everyone knows that!


Michael, you might want to Google "generic and genericized trademarks" ...



:roll: I don't think I'll bother with Google. I think I knew the difference . . ,. oh, err . . . 40 years ago! :roll:
Mine was an off the cuff, flippant remark. I apologise. I thought that was obvious.
Author:  Clay S. [ Sat Sep 28, 2013 9:40 am ]
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I sometimes use the "old" Makita battery powered saw with the 3 inch (non carbide) blade to hand slot fretboards. The standard blade on this saw cuts a kerf of the proper width for the wire I use (Stew Mac). I also use the blade mounted on a direct drive saw motor mounted in a home made table.
Some skilsaws are better than others and may work fine. I would be inclined to cobble together a home made saw using an arbor and an old motor, as you don't need the adjustments that are available with a skilsaw.
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