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| Author: | Mike Baker [ Wed Sep 18, 2013 3:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Need some help with tints and finishes, please. |
Hi. Looking to do a transparent finish. Can someone tell me the difference between this... http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Finishing_supplies/Colors,_tints,_and_stains/ColorTone_Liquid_Stains.html ...and this. http://www.woodcraft.com/Product/2005522/16594/Mixol-Tint-Blue-09-20-mL.aspx Also, is there an appreciable difference between this lacquer... http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Finishing_supplies/Finishes_and_solvents/Behlen_Nitrocellulose_Stringed_Instrument_Lacquers/Behlen_Nitrocellulose_Stringed_Instrument_Lacquer.html?actn=100101&xst=3&xsr=7494 ...and this lacquer. http://www.woodcraft.com/Product/2005277/10715/Behlen-Luthier%27s-Lacquer-Quart.aspx Thanks. |
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| Author: | dzsmith [ Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Need some help with tints and finishes, please. |
Hi Mike, Here is my limited amateur experience: I've used Behlen stringed instrument lacquer on three guitars and I am happy with it. Dried fast, polished well. It has a slight amber tint, a least in liquid form. I don't know the difference in Master and Regular. Behlens website is not much help. I used Transtint dye added to the lacquer and the color quickly faded. I did not have that problem with the dye applied directly to the wood. Funny I did not read the directions, but it is for interior use only. It received indirect sunlight while drying so I guess that caused the fading. I got some +2.50 reading glasses last week: I should be able to read directions now. |
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| Author: | theguitarwhisperer [ Wed Sep 18, 2013 9:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Need some help with tints and finishes, please. |
The can of Behlen Stringed Instrument Laquer sitting on the shelf at my local Woodcraft looks like the same label as the Stew-mac version. I believe the label is just different. I know nothing about the dyes. If you have the StewMac finishing book and are planning on using their "recipes", I would use their dyes. Or, you can be brave and experiment! |
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| Author: | Mike Baker [ Wed Sep 18, 2013 9:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Need some help with tints and finishes, please. |
Thanks, Dan. I'm assuming that the transtint is the same thing as the Colortone tints from StewMac? From what I can find online, the mixol are pigments, the transtints are dyes. I'm leaning toward the Mixol at this point. Sure would appreciate any more info anyone can give me. |
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| Author: | Mike Baker [ Wed Sep 18, 2013 9:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Need some help with tints and finishes, please. |
theguitarwhisperer wrote: The can of Behlen Stringed Instrument Laquer sitting on the shelf at my local Woodcraft looks like the same label as the Stew-mac version. I believe the label is just different. I know nothing about the dyes. If you have the StewMac finishing book and are planning on using their "recipes", I would use their dyes. Or, you can be brave and experiment! For me, it's less like brave and more like stupid, lol. Thanks for your help. |
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| Author: | ernie [ Wed Sep 18, 2013 11:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Need some help with tints and finishes, please. |
Dyes penetrate deeper into the woods surface .Finishing is a subject unto itself.I suggest some books from your library e.g. Flexner , dresdner and others. There are so many ways and methods of finishing that it can boggle a newbies mind. Find a simple finish you feel comfortable using an practice on scrap. |
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| Author: | B. Howard [ Thu Sep 19, 2013 4:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Need some help with tints and finishes, please. |
Mixol pigments work better for opaque finishes, they do not make good looking transparent shaders. I use behlins solar-lux to make my translucent type finishes. The lacquer is the same product. |
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| Author: | Mike Baker [ Thu Sep 19, 2013 7:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Need some help with tints and finishes, please. |
Thanks a lot for all the help and advice. Good info to know. |
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