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| Author: | Goodin [ Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Steel String Rosettes |
I'm about to start on a guitar which will be a replica more or less of an early 30's OM-18. This will be my first steel string type sound hole and I have a few questions. Where do I get purfling to match up with a 30's 18 style rosette (see pic)? Stew Mac or LMI don't seem to have the right combinations, unless I have overlooked something. Also, what is your preferred method of cutting the rosette channel? I am considering the fly-cutter type jig that LMI sells but it is expensive. Is it worth it? How about using a router? Or by hand via the Cumpiano method? Attachment: 2.jpg
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| Author: | jackwilliams [ Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Steel String Rosettes |
I believe you can probably get what you need from either Martin, or from John Hall @ Bluescreek guitars...The StewMac jig that utilizes a dremel style router works very well |
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| Author: | SteveSmith [ Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Steel String Rosettes |
For cutting the rosette channel a lot of us are using the Wells-Karol type jig with a laminate trimmer. |
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| Author: | Goodin [ Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Steel String Rosettes |
Thanks Steve and Jack. I will look into your advice. Im liking the Wells Karol jig. Seems much safer than a fly cutter on a drill press. |
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| Author: | Casey Cochran [ Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Steel String Rosettes |
A nice variation on the traditional Martin style rosette is to use end grained ivoroid and tortoise for the inner rings. +1 for the Wells Karol jig. |
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| Author: | Tony_in_NYC [ Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Steel String Rosettes |
If you like tiled rosettes, you can glue one up using thick tiles so that you can simply slice off rosettes as you need them. You don't need a lathe since you can use the circle cutter to cut out a rosette from your "blank" and vary the thickness of the rosette. Some could be narrow, others wider, but they will all look the same. I saw a guy do this over at luthierforum.com. I know the user was Steve Stevens, but I can't seem to find a link to the rosette. He made a tiled rosette about 2 inches thick, and sliced off rosettes as he needed them. He grew tired of the same design after a few uses though, so that's something to think about. |
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| Author: | LarryH [ Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Steel String Rosettes |
Found this thread Tony - I've been looking for something similar http://www.luthierforum.com/index.php?/ ... e-designs/ |
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| Author: | Michael.N. [ Thu Apr 18, 2013 1:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Steel String Rosettes |
The popsicle stick that Cumpiano shows works very well. For security I place a dab of superglue at the upperside base of the blade. Shellac the rosette area first. I use the small Stanley router Plane to cut the channel. The Veritas miniature router plane is on the shopping list. It's a pretty quick method and once you have set the inner/outer diameters it's there for future rosettes of the same. |
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| Author: | Wayne Brown [ Thu Apr 18, 2013 1:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Steel String Rosettes |
That's a +1 for me on jackwilliams post. I am just starting an OM-28 thirties era and John Hall was very helpful with the rosette and purfling. The StewMac router jig works great for me as well. |
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| Author: | Tony_in_NYC [ Sat Apr 20, 2013 3:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Steel String Rosettes |
LarryH wrote: Found this thread Tony - I've been looking for something similar http://www.luthierforum.com/index.php?/ ... e-designs/ That's the thread! |
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