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Author:  Don Williams [ Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:00 pm ]
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So my Smiley-Uke finally has a video done from the owner.

Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwwjaIrF ... ture=share

Oh...here are the final glamour shots:

Author:  James Ringelspaugh [ Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:28 pm ]
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Way cool, and what beautiful back/side wood!

Author:  Joe Beaver [ Mon Feb 11, 2013 1:54 am ]
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Excellent Don!!!

Author:  Don Williams [ Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:57 am ]
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Thanks...
It's really nice to see it being played by someone who really appreciates ukuleles and shares the joy of music with others.

Author:  Joe Sallis [ Mon Feb 11, 2013 8:09 am ]
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really enjoyed listening to that. Lets hope you take the world by storm with your smiley uke!

Author:  Don Williams [ Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:37 pm ]
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Thanks Joe! It would really be nice to have so many orders that I have to quit my job and open up a small factory to produce them. Never going to happen, even though I think it's a really great idea for an instrument.
The ukulele market is much lower priced than the guitar market, and there is fierce competition. And they may be smaller, but not necessarily easier to make!

Author:  timoM [ Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:44 pm ]
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Love the uke, and the performance, well done. [clap] T

Author:  Don Williams [ Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:35 am ]
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Thanks Tim. Much appreciated.
I really enjoy John's videos. He's just an average guy who loves the ukulele and embodies the spirit of fun that the ukulele also represents.

Author:  WaddyThomson [ Tue Feb 12, 2013 11:07 am ]
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That's just Groovy, Don! [clap] [clap] [clap]

Author:  Joe Sallis [ Tue Feb 12, 2013 11:17 am ]
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Don, not sure if it's the same in the US but here in the UK there's a real uke fad on at the moment. You see them being sold in arts centres etc and loads of uke groups springing up. You might find an outlet here in the UK if you went into production. It's such a good idea that I reckon you could make good bussiness from it.

Author:  Don Williams [ Tue Feb 12, 2013 1:07 pm ]
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Thanks Joe,

There seems to be a large number of people who think it's a cool idea, but as far as interest in the uke is concerned, it has the problem of straddling the line between a serious uke and a novelty uke. The problem is that in order to make them as cheaply as most novelty ukes, I would have to have them made in China in order to keep the cost down. My issue is that I really don't want to pursue that direction as it would take an enormous investment, and I'd rather put people to work here where jobs are scarce. Then again, the cost of labor here isn't cheap and that could drive the price up above where people would be willing to spend on it.

I have the name trademarked, and domain names registered, but I'm just not sure I'm prepared in any way to try to see if I can sell them in quantity. I know I can sell one or two more, but at what price do people want these, and at what price can I make them for? Can it be profitable, or would I lose my shirt on it? It's a tough call, and frankly I'm not capitalized enough to even dream of making it a mass-produced item. I would really seriously have to determine a lot of cost factors before taking it more than making a few at a time or one at a time. A lot of uke buyers buy inexpensive ukes with which the market is fairly flooded, and I don't want to compete with those. It's a tough call.

Author:  James Orr [ Tue Feb 12, 2013 6:06 pm ]
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It sounds great!

Author:  Casey Cochran [ Tue Feb 12, 2013 6:31 pm ]
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Very cool, Don. Makes me miss Iz. I'm sure he would have wanted one.

Author:  Don Williams [ Tue Feb 12, 2013 8:52 pm ]
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Casey Cochran wrote:
Very cool, Don. Makes me miss Iz. I'm sure he would have wanted one.


Yes, he was a great talent. Such a shame to lose people like him. He was awesome.

Author:  Steve Kinnaird [ Tue Feb 12, 2013 10:34 pm ]
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Dang...makes a guy want to smile!

Steve

Author:  Terence Kennedy [ Wed Feb 13, 2013 1:12 am ]
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I love it!

Author:  douglas ingram [ Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:57 am ]
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I'm not much into ukes, but THAT is the kind of uke that I'd want to build!

Author:  Don Williams [ Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:44 pm ]
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Thanks guys.

Do you folks feel this is marketable, as in, do you think I can sell a number of them?

All opinions welcome.

Thanks.

Author:  Alex Kleon [ Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:14 pm ]
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Don, I don't think my opinion would carry much weight, but I would imagine that you should be able to sell quite a few. I watched a documentary called "The Mighty Uke" yesterday, and saw many different ukes of varying quality and shapes. I don't think yours would look out of place in the hands of many of the top notch musicians in the doc. :) uke :)

Alex

Author:  Terence Kennedy [ Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:04 am ]
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Don Williams wrote:
Thanks guys.

Do you folks feel this is marketable, as in, do you think I can sell a number of them?

All opinions welcome.

Thanks.


Absolutely. Price them reasonably and put one in a well known guitar shop so it gets on their website with a sound clip or use that video. It could be your meal ticket out of here.

Author:  Michael.N. [ Thu Feb 14, 2013 3:00 pm ]
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What exactly is a 'reasonable price' though? I use a fairly simple formula. All costs plus my per hour rate. No point in charging minimum wage unless you are rich enough to subsidise the activity. Don't forget that 'All costs' must include a proportion of every single business cost, all factored into your selling price. Make a small batch (3 or 4 ?), promote and see how the market reacts. Give it time. I think you have already identified the possible sticking point: folk not viewing it as a serious instrument. Then again you just never know. Avoid trying to pitch the price so low that it becomes a chain around your neck. Forget the race to the bottom. You'll never beat the mass produced Chinese made instrument unless you want to mass produce them in China - that's a completely different game.
My $3,000 worth.

Author:  Don Williams [ Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:01 pm ]
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That makes a lot of sense. I don't want to produce them in China, if for no other reason too many of our jobs here have gone there in recent years. That choice may kill the whole thing before it starts though. I know a lot of novelty ukes are selling for over $1000 and sometimes even double that, but those doing that are well established and have their processes down cold. My other issue is where does one find wood at costs that make sense for trying to keep the costs down? Where does one find decent Koa these days?!!! There's not much out there anymore (rumor has it that a large factory on the West coast is buying most of it up) so that's one wood that's become very expensive, and it's traditional for ukes. Even Black Acacia aka Tasmanian Blackwood is getting crazy expensive. There's a lot of details to be worked out. Meanwhile, I do have plans to do a batch of 4 or 5, and we'll see what happens with that. I'll need to take a very hard look at costs involved through the whole process of the batch, and see where these things should be priced.

Thanks for all the advice folks...

Author:  Shaw [ Fri Feb 15, 2013 2:19 am ]
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Not to burst your bubble but the smiley face is actually trademarked in hundreds of countries. Walmart was even sued for its use on ads and such.

Author:  Don Williams [ Fri Feb 15, 2013 6:21 am ]
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I will have to look into that...but I thought it was long past the length of the trademark and is now free to be used. I will have to ask my patent/trademark lawyer about that.

Author:  Arnt Rian [ Fri Feb 15, 2013 8:39 am ]
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Hi Don, it turned out lovely! And yes, it put a smile on my face, to :D

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