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| Author: | sprouseod [ Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Egg white poor fill under waterbase finish |
Egg white pore filler under water based finish. Just curious what would be the results? I plan to put 2 spit coats of shellac after the pore filling and use the new polyWrey finish. Any suggestions or warnings? Thanks Richard |
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| Author: | Matthew Jenkins [ Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Egg white poor fill under waterbase finish |
Go for it I'm doing the exact same thing right now. Egg white pore fill on Ziricote B&S - only two coats needed. I also use the whites to raise the grain on the top then sand back. Two spit coats of shellac and spray EM6000. No warnings, easy as ![[:Y:]](./images/smilies/smiley20.gif "Thumbs Up") Mat |
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| Author: | ChuckH [ Thu Jan 31, 2013 6:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Egg white poor fill under waterbase finish |
Sacconi say Tony Stradavari used vernice bianca. Wonder if it would work on a guitar. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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| Author: | Joe Sallis [ Thu Jan 31, 2013 8:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Egg white poor fill under waterbase finish |
please could you explain the proccess of using egg whites? |
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| Author: | sprouseod [ Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Egg white poor fill under waterbase finish |
i haven't finished the process yet. But the basic procedure is: 1: separate the egg white 2: dip 240 wet dry sandpaper into the egg white. I used a small 2x3 soft sanding block 3: sand in a swirling motion until yo build up a nice slurry on the back. 4:Take an old credit card or small squeegee and fill the pores at a 45 degree angle. IF you do a search there is a lot of info on pore filling with egg whiite. Richard |
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| Author: | jfmckenna [ Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Egg white poor fill under waterbase finish |
That's pretty much the way I do it. I don't use a credit card but it's just another way of doing it. Sand the egg whites in circular polishing motion and work in small areas like 3x3in at a time or so. The idea is to create a sawdust slurry and pack it into the pores. The egg whites dry hard and clear and act as a binder for the dust and fill in the pores. I think you can make mayonnaise with the yokes or something. |
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| Author: | Michael.N. [ Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Egg white poor fill under waterbase finish |
ChuckH wrote: Sacconi say Tony Stradavari used vernice bianca. Wonder if it would work on a guitar. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Not really for filling Pores. Violin wood does not usually have the kind of open pores found on many Guitar woods. Anyway, the Vernice Bianca was just a theory based on someone finding protein matter under the varnish layer. Doesn't really prove the Vernice Bianca theory at all. |
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| Author: | ChuckH [ Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Egg white poor fill under waterbase finish |
Yeap, no one knows what Strad used, but that's a different thread. About the egg whites, do you just slop on the runny whites or beat them a minute to get it lathered up? I might have to give this a try. Cheers, Hutch Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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| Author: | Alex Kleon [ Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Egg white poor fill under waterbase finish |
Can you tint egg whites for a contrasting pore fill? Sorry about the hijack.  Alex |
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| Author: | jfmckenna [ Fri Feb 01, 2013 11:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Egg white poor fill under waterbase finish |
Beating egg whites will stiffen them and that is not what you want. I've read all sorts of ways to do it but what works for me is just dip the sand paper in the egg whites and polish out the guitar till it stiffens. Then move to another section. When dry just sand or scrape flush and reapply as necessary (or as was mentioned above you can use the squeegee technique if you like, less sanding perhaps). It's that easy. |
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| Author: | George L [ Fri Feb 01, 2013 11:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Egg white poor fill under waterbase finish |
Some people whisk the whites into a foam, let the mixture sit in the fridge for a couple hours, then scoop off the foam and use the remaining liquid (called "glare") to create the slurry. I've done it this way and straight from the shell and didn't really notice a difference. I've never tried tinting or adding anything to the egg whites, but here's something I ran across a while back: http://www.classicalguitardelcamp.com/v ... f8c0cad016 |
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| Author: | WaddyThomson [ Fri Feb 01, 2013 12:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Egg white poor fill under waterbase finish |
That is correct, but the name is glair. Glare is what you have when the sun is in your eyes. |
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| Author: | George L [ Fri Feb 01, 2013 1:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Egg white poor fill under waterbase finish |
I never know which way to go with that word. :-) Some say either way is acceptable, while others say no. Oh well, as I age I'm starting to forget everything anyway, so it won't be a problem much longer! |
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| Author: | oval soundhole [ Sat Feb 02, 2013 6:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Egg white poor fill under waterbase finish |
You don't need to seal the wood after pore filling with eggwhites as the whites act as an adequate sealer. Here's a rosewood guitar I made that is pore filled with egg whites and finished in KTM-9  
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| Author: | oval soundhole [ Sat Feb 02, 2013 9:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Egg white poor fill under waterbase finish |
Alex Kleon wrote: Can you tint egg whites for a contrasting pore fill? Sorry about the hijack. Alex No, the egg whites act as a binder: the dust from sanding is the filler. |
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