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Author:  meddlingfool [ Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Adi/Sitka...

Do you all feel there's a huge difference sonically between the two? So far I've found the difference very subtle compared to say the difference between Sitka and Engelman...

Author:  micahmed [ Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Adi/Sitka...

I can say my adi is far louder then my sitka. but I made my adi guitar and my sitka is a martin.

Author:  Mattia Valente [ Tue Jan 29, 2013 5:13 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Adi/Sitka...

There's simply so much overlap between properties of various spruce species in terms of stiffness and density that generalizations are relatively useless.

Author:  Darryl Young [ Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Adi/Sitka...

I've personally heard knowledgeable folks state that ADI takes years to open up while Sitka opens up much quicker. Seems to me this would be related to building to a dimension instead of matching the top thickness to the stiffness of the plate. What are your thoughts?

Author:  Tom West [ Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:41 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Adi/Sitka...

As Mattia has said lots of variation in individual pieces of wood. In general Sitka has less overtones and RED is a bit more complex. Much easier to get visually pleasing material in Sitka.That does not translate into better tonewood.
Tom

Author:  meddlingfool [ Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Adi/Sitka...

Everything?

Jeez, I can get most single malts to open up in less than a minute...:)

Seriously though, generalizations are useful and necessary as reference points, and I believe all woods have their inherant general characteristics. That's why we choose them. Why are necks so often mahogany? Cause generally it's stable and easy to carve. Except the pieces that ain't. But next time you make a neck, you'll probably start with your mh stash instead of going to the lumberyard and starting at 'A'...You know what I'm saying.

I guess the angle I'm coming from is this...
I keep talking folks out of expensive Adi upcharges cause I don't really feel the price is really worth all the hype. Sure Adi's nice, but you can get IMO better Sitka for the same or less money, unless you're paying huge dosh...

Author:  Mike Collins [ Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Adi/Sitka...

Do you have both tops in your shop?
I have some Lutz that is more Sitka than White Spruce.
Plus they were cut by Shane & have NO runout.
They sound great -good taptone-etc...
Tight grain -I have some with small figuring.

Adi -is NOT worth the price .
I have some real Adi-tops-I live in the foothills
of the Adirondacks.
The quality is just not worth the price.

Lutz looks great also.
plus it weighs less than Sitka!
Want to swap one for a good singlemalt?

Mike

Author:  meddlingfool [ Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Adi/Sitka...

Ha ha!

No thanks. I actually prefer Sitka over everything. The Lutz is a nice bullet point though...

Author:  Darryl Young [ Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Re: Adi/Sitka...

Mike Collins wrote:
Do you have both tops in your shop?
I have some Lutz that is more Sitka than White Spruce.
Plus they were cut by Shane & have NO runout.
They sound great -good taptone-etc...
Tight grain -I have some with small figuring.

Mike


I'm familiar with Sitka and Lutz but not White spruce. What is White like?

Author:  bftobin [ Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Adi/Sitka...

From what I've heard over the years, Adi (red spruce) and white spruce are virtually the same. If you don't see their bark and leaves, you have to take the cutter's word for it.
Once it's cut at a mill, you can't tell the difference.

Author:  CharlieT [ Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:01 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Re: Adi/Sitka...

Darryl Young wrote:
I'm familiar with Sitka and Lutz but not White spruce. What is White like?

Lutz is a hybrid of Sitka and White spruce, and sometimes Engelmann, although I've been told that the trees large enough for tops are typically found too low in elevation to have any Engelmann component.

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