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Author: | Paul Burner [ Fri Jan 04, 2013 2:24 pm ] |
Post subject: | Pressing in tuner bushings |
I need to press in some tuner bushings in my headstock for these cute but expensive tuners: http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Tuners/Guit ... uitar.html I really don't want to spend the money to buy the StewMac tool for doing this as I don't think I'll be doing it very often. Is there an "at home" method for doing this including duct tape and chewing gum? I'm thinking a C-clamp and some backing support should do the trick - but I've never done this before - so I'm seeking your input. |
Author: | TonyKarol [ Fri Jan 04, 2013 2:28 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Pressing in tuner bushings |
I now have the stew mac rig, but before I had it, I used a backer of some cork or similar, and then pressed them in using the drill press with a large round of metal or wood in it ... |
Author: | Bryan Bear [ Fri Jan 04, 2013 2:29 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Pressing in tuner bushings |
I'll be watching for the correct answer since I have just been pressing them in with a deep welled socket of appropriate size. . . |
Author: | Clinchriver [ Fri Jan 04, 2013 2:32 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Pressing in tuner bushings |
As long as the hole is reamed to the proper size just about anything will press them in. |
Author: | Paul Burner [ Fri Jan 04, 2013 2:33 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Pressing in tuner bushings |
I do have a fret press - would that be something to consider using? |
Author: | SteveCourtright [ Fri Jan 04, 2013 2:42 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Pressing in tuner bushings |
I made a press that looks like a violin edge clamp. It has two wood cylinders that are movably disposed on a threaded bolt. One of the cylinders is moved toward the other with a wingnut. The faces of the cylinders are provided with leather. The bolt must be small in diameter so as to fit in the hole that receives the bushing without interfering with the bushing as it is pressed in. I will try to put up a pic tonight or so. |
Author: | Ron Belanger [ Fri Jan 04, 2013 2:58 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Pressing in tuner bushings |
I do the same as Steve |
Author: | ChuckB [ Fri Jan 04, 2013 3:17 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Pressing in tuner bushings |
Take a 1" x 1" x 3/4" piece of hardwood or plywood and glue a 1" x 1" piece of cork to it. Drill a !/4" hole through the center as to make a "wooden washer". Get a 1/4" x 2" carriage bolt and insert through wooden washer. Put the washer and bolt through the headstock from the back. Put the bushing over the bolt followed by a nylon washer and wing nut and tighten to press in. Chuck |
Author: | bluescreek [ Fri Jan 04, 2013 3:22 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Pressing in tuner bushings |
I use UHMW nylon and a c clamp or my drill press and the Nylon bushing. |
Author: | SimonF [ Fri Jan 04, 2013 3:30 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Pressing in tuner bushings |
Why don't you make a spool clamp -- that should work well. By the way, you guys have been putting out some especially nice looking instruments -- keep up the awesome work!!! -- Simon |
Author: | J.L.K. Vesa [ Fri Jan 04, 2013 3:35 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Pressing in tuner bushings |
Clinchriver wrote: As long as the hole is reamed to the proper size just about anything will press them in. +1 to that, it is not about forcing anything in, it is about fitting counterparts. |
Author: | nyazzip [ Fri Jan 04, 2013 3:49 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Pressing in tuner bushings |
no need for fancy press setups; you can tap them in with a makeshift wood or nylon mallet |
Author: | quentinjazz [ Fri Jan 04, 2013 4:00 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Pressing in tuner bushings |
Hi, here is my home made clamp: ![]() ![]() It works like a charm ![]() |
Author: | Terence Kennedy [ Fri Jan 04, 2013 4:22 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Pressing in tuner bushings |
I've used this for at least 6 years. It's worked great for me. http://kennedyguitars.com/_Kennedy_Guit ... press.html |
Author: | Paul Burner [ Sat Jan 05, 2013 4:39 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Pressing in tuner bushings |
Clinchriver wrote: As long as the hole is reamed to the proper size just about anything will press them in. [taken from an email I just sent to a friend, entitled "No-Swear 2013!"] I have realized that it is just a fact of life that every time I do something NEW on a guitar build it will probably be a learning experience where I learn how to NEVER do something again. ![]() ![]() If I take this new expectation as a matter of fact - then I will probably have much lower blood pressure - and swear a lot less. Today's experience was with pressing in tuner bushings. I've not used press-in bushings before - have always used Gotoh tuners up to now. So - todays' lesson is that you need to make sure the bushing clears the finish before biting into to the wood. If you don't ream the hole JUST enough - then you will exert excessive pressure on the finish to the point where it will stress crack or lift or bubble under the pressure. Today I got to see two of those happen. ![]() I guess the good news is that 4 of the tuners went in just fine. ![]() ![]() ![]() So.... learn from my mistakes. Keep a notebook. REAM those dang holes a little bigger! (Thank God I've got Joe White on my side to fix these mess-ups!) |
Author: | Clinchriver [ Sat Jan 05, 2013 5:01 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Pressing in tuner bushings |
Paul Burner wrote: Clinchriver wrote: As long as the hole is reamed to the proper size just about anything will press them in. I have realized that it is just a fact of life that every time I do something NEW on a guitar build it will probably be a learning experience where I learn how to NEVER do something again. ![]() ![]() About 75% I hit a home run the other 25%............oh well. |
Author: | Paul Burner [ Sat Jan 05, 2013 5:14 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Pressing in tuner bushings |
Clinchriver wrote: About 75% I hit a home run the other 25%............oh well. I hit 66% today as 4 of the bushings went in fine.... HA |
Author: | Fred Tellier [ Sat Jan 05, 2013 5:16 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Pressing in tuner bushings |
Joe will do it up like new, these kind of problems are why I am glad I do my own finishing. No matter how much we try to avoid messing up, something can go wrong. My goal is to only make each mistake once and so far it has worked out that way. Fred |
Author: | Casey Cochran [ Sat Jan 05, 2013 6:13 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Pressing in tuner bushings |
I chucked up a piece of 1/4" all thread in my drill press and put a nut and washer on it. |
Author: | ChuckH [ Sat Jan 05, 2013 6:53 pm ] |
Post subject: | Pressing in tuner bushings |
Wish this forum had a "Like" button. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Author: | cphanna [ Sat Jan 05, 2013 6:59 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Pressing in tuner bushings |
Fred Tellier has it right. It doesn't have to be complicated. Your thumb will do it just fine. But if you are after a mechanical means to seat the bushing, then I highly recommend the wing nut method, as has been described and illustrated by others already. DO pad your wing nut with a washer or use a cork-lined spool clamp to avoid marring your bushings. Note: The truly important part of this is to have your bushing holes reamed out just right. And that can be determined by trial and error with a piece of scrap that is drilled out to the same diameter as the holes in your head stock, and then marking your reamer with a bit of masking tape. |
Author: | Barry Daniels [ Mon Jan 07, 2013 1:39 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Pressing in tuner bushings |
My fret press arbor works great for seating bushings. I place a bolt in the arbor shaft that has a leather pad glued on the head. Fast and allows a lot of control. |
Author: | SteveCourtright [ Mon Jan 07, 2013 8:11 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Pressing in tuner bushings |
SteveCourtright wrote: I made a press that looks like a violin edge clamp. It has two wood cylinders that are movably disposed on a threaded bolt. One of the cylinders is moved toward the other with a wingnut. The faces of the cylinders are provided with leather. The bolt must be small in diameter so as to fit in the hole that receives the bushing without interfering with the bushing as it is pressed in. I will try to put up a pic tonight or so. Overkill, perhaps, but easy to make and nice to use. SBC |
Author: | Wes McMillian [ Tue Jan 08, 2013 6:40 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Pressing in tuner bushings |
Todd Stock wrote: I have the SM tool as well, and it's great for pulling bushings, but really not needed for seating them. Furthermore, I had one slip and dent a headstock finish while installing bushings. Never again. Definitely pays for itself for removing bushings, though! |
Author: | Terence Kennedy [ Tue Jan 08, 2013 12:03 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Pressing in tuner bushings |
With me and nitro it seems that little lifts when prepping the bushing holes are pretty common. Here's yet another way to apply butyl c to the edge and affords good control. Get a small syringe with a 25G or preferably smaller needle. Raise a small bead on the bevel and touch it to the edge of the lift. ![]() |
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