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Author:  Daniel Minard [ Wed Jan 02, 2013 9:45 pm ]
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Hi Folks; It's been a long while since I dropped in, but things have settled down (at last) & I'm back into the shop full time again.
A customer recently brought me a 1965 Patt Lister Classical guitar that's in need of major repair.
The repairs are going well, but I am having trouble finding new tuners to fit the 1.5" post spacing. All of the current production tuners seem to have 1.378" spacing.
I have ordered a set of individual Shertlers that'll do the job, but they will look out of place on this old instrument.
Does anyone know where I can find some good quality tuners with the right spacing?
Thanks in advance. Dan

Author:  WilliamS [ Wed Jan 02, 2013 11:21 pm ]
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38.1mm spacing is going to be tough to come by. I've never seen any but seem to recall reading a similar question to yours once before. I think Gotoh makes tuners with 39mm spacing. You'll probably have to look around or special order, though. You might check to see if those would work.

Edit: Just did a quick search and found the Gotoh's here (again, don't know if they'll work):
http://savageclassical.com/shop/gotoh-4 ... -machines/

Author:  Jim Watts [ Thu Jan 03, 2013 1:00 am ]
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You might consider Gilbert individual tuners also. A very good tuner, not as non-traditional looking as the shertler, but some don't care for the aesthetics.

Author:  Daniel Minard [ Fri Jan 04, 2013 3:06 pm ]
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Thanks guys!
I lucked into a set of almost identical tuners from a friend who's been carting them around for almost 40 years. Luckily, he bought two sets back in the early seventies & didn't mind parting with one set. Problem solved.
This is a really unique old guitar. Designed & built by an Aircraft Maintenance Engineer who threw out traditional bracing methods & applied his aircraft structural expertise to the bracing.
The braces are 1/16" thick & 5/8" tall, radiating out from the soundhole. The braces are jointed to 1/16" thick rings spaced concentrically out from the soundhole. Very light & extremely stiff.
Apparently, Segovia played this guitar during a master class he held in Toronto in '66 & was very impressed with it. The owner has a picture of Segovia posing with the students in the class.
If I can get a good pic of the bracing, I'll post it once the repairs are finished.
Cheers! Dan

Author:  David Wren [ Sun Jan 06, 2013 8:20 pm ]
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Sergei de Jonge worked with Pat for a time ... he'd be a good source of information on Lister guitars if you have further questions.

Author:  WaddyThomson [ Sun Jan 06, 2013 8:26 pm ]
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I know your problem is solved, but for future information, Rubner, in Germany will make tuners for any spacing you want. You'll pay a premium for them, but their machines are reasonably priced, and a premium set will still be less than lots of other machines, and you can get the special spacing or 5 on a side, what ever you want.

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