Somebody asked me to post a pic showing the masking.
Mike
Note: When I do mask the binding, I leave enough of the purfling exposed so that any potential gaps get filled with epoxy.
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| Author: | sdsollod [ Sat Dec 29, 2012 6:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Z-Poxy on Maple Binding? |
I'm working on a L-00 with Mahogany B&S and figured Maple binding. (I haven't used Maple binding before...) Should I mask off the binding when I pore fill the B&S or go ahead and Z-Poxy the bindings at the same time? I assume that the Z-Poxy would enhance the figure in the Maple... Also... What about the top of the binding on the top of the guitar? If I Z-Poxy the sides of the Maple and not do the top, it might not look right. I could mask off the spruce top, leaving the top of the binding exposed, and Z-Poxy the top of the binding... (I plan to mask the spruce anyway.) The other alternative is to mask all of the binding when I Z-Poxy the B&S... What would you do? Any thoughts or suggestions? Thanks, Steve |
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| Author: | Tom West [ Sat Dec 29, 2012 8:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Z-Poxy on Maple Binding? |
Steve: I use zpoxy over figured maple bindings. Rubbing out any extra zpoxy at the edges generally covers the top edges. I don't mask the top as I generally fill the rosette with zpoxy also. Tom |
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| Author: | Fred Tellier [ Sat Dec 29, 2012 9:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Z-Poxy on Maple Binding? |
Z-poxy works great on figured bindings. really enhances the figure but will add a bit of an amber tone to them. To me it looks real good. Fred |
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| Author: | Mike OMelia [ Sun Dec 30, 2012 12:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Z-Poxy on Maple Binding? |
I'm funny about this. Maple does not need filling (generally) and I like the bright white contrast. Sooooo, I mask it. A bit more work, but worth it to me. Mike |
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| Author: | Stuart Gort [ Sun Dec 30, 2012 12:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Z-Poxy on Maple Binding? |
I don't think that maple is curly enough, Todd. |
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| Author: | Mike OMelia [ Sun Dec 30, 2012 1:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Z-Poxy on Maple Binding? |
Somebody asked me to post a pic showing the masking. Mike Note: When I do mask the binding, I leave enough of the purfling exposed so that any potential gaps get filled with epoxy. |
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| Author: | CharlieT [ Sun Dec 30, 2012 3:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Z-Poxy on Maple Binding? |
Another option if you don't like the amber that Zpoxy imparts is System 3 Clear Coat, which is virtually water white. The mix ratio is a more finicky but I use a digital gram scale and have never had any issues with it. |
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| Author: | Mike OMelia [ Sun Dec 30, 2012 3:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Z-Poxy on Maple Binding? |
I actually like the amber tones. But I have used water clear epoxy when I did not want them. If the whole body is maple, it makes sense to coat everything. |
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| Author: | sdsollod [ Sun Dec 30, 2012 6:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Z-Poxy on Maple Binding? |
Mike, I get the masking part... I want to see what the maple looks like finished - after you masked it... I'm use to using Z-Poxy and I'm generally pleased with how it works. Not using it on the binding might give it more contrast. Will the Z-Poxy pop the figure better than finish coat? Steve |
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| Author: | Mike OMelia [ Tue Jan 01, 2013 11:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Z-Poxy on Maple Binding? |
Hmm. Very good question. Without the epoxy, the grain may not "pop" as well. I do not like working the binding anymore than I have to. This topic is discussed often here. And it depends in the binding. Maple is not nearly as pore filled as is EIR or mahogany. So, if I am after contrast, I will keep the zpoxy off of the bindings. Then, in the final pass, I will use a wash coat of clear epoxy on the bindings. Sorry, I did not understand the original question. If zpoxy had no color, I would still treat the binding the same. I just don't like getting tools and sandpaper near binding once I've set the dimensions. Mike |
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| Author: | Mike OMelia [ Wed Jan 02, 2013 12:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Z-Poxy on Maple Binding? |
Btw, I do not have an example ready. But when I finish these two, I will post pics. I used to be ambivalent on the issue of grain popping. I have changed my opinion here. Some accomplish it by avoiding sanding back to wood. And I see the point here because u can open new pores. I like to get as close as possible, then use a wash coat to insure color tone. Mike |
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