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| Author: | Tony_in_NYC [ Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Bending Ziricote-coupla questions |
I have to bend a set of ziricote and I wanted to get input on the preferred temp and thickness. I was thinking .085" and 300*F. I usually bend at 275*F and that has worked for cedar, walnut, koa, and black limba. However, the ziricote is markedly harder and stiffer than the other wood. I bent figured bubinga at 325*F and .075" thick and that worked fine. I have SuperSoft 2 at the ready, so let me know your experiences. I will be bending these sides into an OM if that is important. Thanks in advance, Tony |
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| Author: | Kent Chasson [ Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bending Ziricote-coupla questions |
I have found ziricote very easy to bend with very little spring back. I usually go to 325 for the bending, back off to 275 and cook for about 10 minutes. If the bending takes you much longer than 5 minutes or so, you may want to turn the heat down to 275 before you are finished bending. |
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| Author: | Fred Tellier [ Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bending Ziricote-coupla questions |
I bent 2 .085" thick Ziricote sets about a month ago, both with tight waists one even had a cutaway and had no issues. I sprayed with supersoft II waited overnight and then sprayed with water, wrapped in craft paper and bent with blanket at 300 deg. then backed off to 250 for 10 minutes. I never change my bending temperature setting on my PID controller from 300 for anything I have bent including figured Bubinga and the Ziricote. So far 20 sets with no breakage or damage. Fred |
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| Author: | Tony_in_NYC [ Thu Dec 13, 2012 1:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Bending Ziricote-coupla questions |
Thanks Kent and Fred. Looks like I was on the right track. Posted using letters to form words, sentences and thoughts. |
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| Author: | Joe Beaver [ Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bending Ziricote-coupla questions |
Good info Fred and Kent. I am always glad to see the third ingredient included (wood prep, heat and TIMING) Tony, let us know how it comes out. I will probably bend my only set of ziricote soon now that I have made a new bending machine (inspired by LMI's new gadget) |
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| Author: | Tony_in_NYC [ Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Bending Ziricote-coupla questions |
First side is bent. Still in the machine though but it was pretty uneventful. 300 to bend then dropped to 275 for 10 minutes. We shall see if I rushed it or not in a bit. Posted using letters to form words, sentences and thoughts. |
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| Author: | Tony_in_NYC [ Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Bending Ziricote-coupla questions |
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| Author: | Tony_in_NYC [ Wed Dec 19, 2012 1:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | Bending Ziricote-coupla questions |
Both sides came out perfectly. Virtually no spring back. Thanks for the help. The sides were .085" thick when I bent them. Posted using letters to form words, sentences and thoughts. |
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| Author: | theguitarwhisperer [ Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bending Ziricote-coupla questions |
I'm fixin to hafta bend a ziricote cutaway. Did it feel like that temp and thickness would work? |
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| Author: | Fred Tellier [ Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bending Ziricote-coupla questions |
Quote: I'm fixin to hafta bend a ziricote cutaway. Did it feel like that temp and thickness would work? I would go thinner on the cut away side, more like .075 to .080. and use the supersoft II Fred |
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| Author: | Tony_in_NYC [ Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bending Ziricote-coupla questions |
theguitarwhisperer wrote: I'm fixin to hafta bend a ziricote cutaway. Did it feel like that temp and thickness would work? Can't speak to the cutaway, but at .085" thickness with the SS2, it bent very easily. I am very happy with the results. |
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